Public Hearing . Proposed 2025 Millage Rate
Transcript
| All right, I'm calling this meeting to order. | 00:00:08 | |
| We're going to start with the pledge. | 00:00:12 | |
| Chief, would you like to lead us? | 00:00:19 | |
| Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. | 00:00:22 | |
| And to the Republic for which it stands. | 00:00:26 | |
| One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:29 | |
| All right, so the city has a hearing loop system. | 00:00:37 | |
| In the council chambers, a wireless network for those with hearing aids. | 00:00:41 | |
| Signals can be picked up by most hearing aids. The city also has loop receivers for those who still have some difficulty hearing. | 00:00:45 | |
| Anyone with questions can contact the ADA Coordinator City Manager to allow the city to make reasonable accommodations. | 00:00:53 | |
| This meeting is being broadcast online via a link on the City Council meeting information page of the city website. | 00:01:00 | |
| This also provides closed captioning. | 00:01:07 | |
| Click the CC icon in the lower right corner. | 00:01:09 | |
| When the video is posted, CC will automatically appear. | 00:01:12 | |
| A transcript of the meeting is under the Transcript tab. | 00:01:16 | |
| The current month's agenda is posted a week before the meeting to allow time to provide comments in writing to the clerk. | 00:01:20 | |
| All right, so this is a public hearing. | 00:01:29 | |
| For the purpose to speak towards the mileage rate. | 00:01:33 | |
| After we're gonna. | 00:01:38 | |
| Before we go into it, the manager is going to give a brief overview of it, but when it is time for the public hearing, you are to | 00:01:40 | |
| speak from the podium. | 00:01:43 | |
| 4 minutes per person. | 00:01:47 | |
| Please refrain from debate, argument, personal attacks, or irrelevant discussion. | 00:01:49 | |
| Address only the merits of the pending matter and address remarks directly to Council. | 00:01:55 | |
| Council can't speak to potential litigation. | 00:02:00 | |
| Attorney-client, or personnel matters. | 00:02:04 | |
| So, Manager Dickerson, if you will, please. | 00:02:07 | |
| Give your overview of the proposed 2025 mileage rate. | 00:02:11 | |
| Thank you, Mayor. Pretend. | 00:02:17 | |
| So the. | 00:02:19 | |
| Excuse me, the city's net property tax digest for 2025 is estimated as a little bit more than 274,000,000. That's an increase of | 00:02:21 | |
| almost 13%. | 00:02:25 | |
| Or $30 million over. | 00:02:30 | |
| 2024 property values. | 00:02:32 | |
| A lot of that, about 18,000 of that, so a little bit more than half of that. | 00:02:35 | |
| Is attributed to new developments or improvements to existing properties. | 00:02:39 | |
| The mileage rate that we're proposing for this year will remain the exact same as the current. | 00:02:44 | |
| Mileage rate. | 00:02:49 | |
| However, that is .1 to 2 mills higher. | 00:02:51 | |
| Than the estimated rollback rate of 2.634 mills. | 00:02:54 | |
| That will generate property taxes of 756,000 and five dollars. | 00:02:59 | |
| Which is an additional of $84,144.00 over FY25 revenues. | 00:03:05 | |
| I do have and I guess let me point out a couple things so. | 00:03:12 | |
| House valued a fair amount market value of 300,000. | 00:03:16 | |
| Again, it would say the exact same as this year unless there were improvements made of that property or it's a new property that | 00:03:19 | |
| hasn't had taxes before, like properties that are being developed in Trove or wherever they may be. | 00:03:24 | |
| That tax on a fair market value home with a homestead exemption would be $325.21 at the 2.756 mills. | 00:03:30 | |
| And for a non homestead property or commercial property, a fair market value of 500,000, the bill would be $551.20. | 00:03:38 | |
| Again, property values or property taxes are based on values that are identified on January 1. | 00:03:46 | |
| Of a budget of any calendar year. | 00:03:52 | |
| The bills are provided in August. Those are provided by the Tax commissioner. | 00:03:55 | |
| Based on the tax assessors data. | 00:04:00 | |
| Our budgets are July. | 00:04:02 | |
| Through June, which means we don't get their revenues for until the end of the count of the calendar year till the quarter two of | 00:04:04 | |
| the calendar year. | 00:04:07 | |
| So I think it's always important to point out, you know, the value of these property taxes. | 00:04:12 | |
| So right now based on the garbage leaf and limb services that are provided to the public. | 00:04:16 | |
| A resident would pay $27.00 a month for household or works out to $324 a year. | 00:04:23 | |
| Per household for the weekly garbage in the weekly leaf and limb pickup. | 00:04:28 | |
| And if we were to look at public safety and law enforcement services as alone as a standalone, that value is $598 a year, again, | 00:04:33 | |
| substantially less than what a homestead property. | 00:04:39 | |
| Would pay into property taxes. | 00:04:45 | |
| This information that's on the screen will appear in the paper probably next week. | 00:04:48 | |
| So that the public will see. | 00:04:52 | |
| The actual data. | 00:04:54 | |
| The five year history tax digest history which is required by the tax biller. Tax bill payers. | 00:04:56 | |
| Bill of Rights. | 00:05:02 | |
| And so you'll see that there's. | 00:05:04 | |
| And then gross digest is 287. After exemptions, our net digest is 274 million and some change. | 00:05:07 | |
| That's an increase of about. | 00:05:14 | |
| 4%. | 00:05:16 | |
| The taxes levied again. | 00:05:18 | |
| Because we've seen so much growth. | 00:05:21 | |
| That's what's making up the $84,000 that and any again, any improvements to existing. | 00:05:22 | |
| Buildings, whether they be commercial or residential. | 00:05:29 | |
| Point out that if you were to roll it back, so this is your proposed mileage rate, which would everybody's would stay the same | 00:05:33 | |
| again unless there were improvements made. | 00:05:37 | |
| And and if the tax assessor picked those up or not? | 00:05:41 | |
| They're using the rollback. There would be a. | 00:05:44 | |
| $14.40 difference that that means they would pay $14.40 less. | 00:05:47 | |
| In taxes for the year if you have a $300,000. | 00:05:53 | |
| Homestead valued property and on the commercial side for a non homestead at 500,000 they would see a $24.40. | 00:05:56 | |
| Reduction, if you will, over this year's taxes. | 00:06:05 | |
| And that's it. | 00:06:09 | |
| Thank you, Manager Dickerson. That was very helpful. I really appreciate the. | 00:06:14 | |
| Showing the value of the services that the city provides, even at the current mileage rate. | 00:06:19 | |
| So it's time for a public hearing if anyone would like to. | 00:06:26 | |
| Speak, I have my timer all ready and happy to hear your comments. | 00:06:30 | |
| If you'll again state your name and address for the record. | 00:06:41 | |
| Is it out OK? | 00:06:50 | |
| Madam Chair, PRO Chairman, Council Member and. | 00:06:53 | |
| Chief Allwood, nice guy. | 00:06:57 | |
| Nice car. | 00:06:59 | |
| Spend a little time talking with him. | 00:07:01 | |
| I've got 3 items I wanted to bring to your attention. | 00:07:03 | |
| Once again in the body of your. | 00:07:08 | |
| Budget document. | 00:07:11 | |
| They singled me out. | 00:07:13 | |
| Single Bob Smith out not just once, not twice, but several times. | 00:07:15 | |
| The lawsuits are filed against this city and others. Rightly so. Rightly so. | 00:07:20 | |
| Pause, you hear? This is not about budget. This is only about the mileage rate. That's what this public hearing is for, is my | 00:07:28 | |
| understanding. | 00:07:32 | |
| We will have public comment on budget. | 00:07:36 | |
| Later on this evening, but I just want to make sure that. | 00:07:40 | |
| What you're commenting on is about the mill rate. | 00:07:44 | |
| So this affects the mileage rate totally what I'm about to say. | 00:07:48 | |
| OK, so. | 00:07:54 | |
| So, so going back to that. | 00:07:55 | |
| Through open records I find that. | 00:07:59 | |
| Two law firms have been hired by this city. | 00:08:02 | |
| One to the total Atlanta law firm. | 00:08:06 | |
| $16,419.60 and Athens law firm now I was 20,116 thousand dollars. | 00:08:08 | |
| 20,116. | 00:08:17 | |
| She also hired a local law firm for. | 00:08:19 | |
| 16,419. | 00:08:22 | |
| So. | 00:08:26 | |
| Maybe perhaps you ought to put that in your budget because that's an it's quite a quite a lot of money at taxpayer spent second | 00:08:27 | |
| thing, the salary of the governor. | 00:08:32 | |
| It's 182,000 last time I checked. | 00:08:37 | |
| 111.8 million. | 00:08:40 | |
| The chairman of Oconee County Commissioner has 45,000 people. | 00:08:43 | |
| And he makes 123,607. | 00:08:47 | |
| The Oconee County Commissioner Administrator. | 00:08:51 | |
| 45,000. | 00:08:55 | |
| People. | 00:08:57 | |
| And he has 378 employees. He makes 100. | 00:08:58 | |
| However, the city of Watkinsville has 3000 people. | 00:09:04 | |
| And about 15 employees I don't know. | 00:09:08 | |
| Making $109,299.46 and this is from the latest reports I could find. | 00:09:11 | |
| Further, umm. | 00:09:18 | |
| When you're budgeting. | 00:09:20 | |
| Please. | 00:09:22 | |
| Please look at properly financing funding the Police Department so they can have a presence in Watkinsville to slow this traffic | 00:09:24 | |
| down. I know you've received my letters, multiple letters and, and, and it's unacceptable. | 00:09:32 | |
| When my grandchildren are 1015 feet away from Mccree St. and I have to. | 00:09:40 | |
| Move them in a fenced area because they're flying down the street. | 00:09:45 | |
| 18 Willis, you've already seen my letters and all. | 00:09:49 | |
| But this is very important thing and I just wanted to raise these points about your budget. | 00:09:54 | |
| Increasing from 1.8 million to 3.4 million. | 00:10:01 | |
| In just four years. Thank you. | 00:10:06 | |
| All right, and. | 00:10:11 | |
| Clerk, did you receive any comments? | 00:10:12 | |
| No, ma'am, I did not. OK. | 00:10:16 | |
| All right, so I am if there's no other comments. | 00:10:23 | |
| I am going to close the public hearing. | 00:10:27 | |
| And go over the next steps. | 00:10:31 | |
| So this evening at 5:00 we have a work session where we as council and mayor are going to be reviewing the budget. | 00:10:34 | |
| And then tonight at the City Council meeting, which is at 6:30, there will be another public hearing. | 00:10:44 | |
| And that will be the second one and that will be about the budget. | 00:10:52 | |
| Not the military. | 00:10:56 | |
| And then? | 00:10:58 | |
| On Wednesday, June 18th, which is the next City Council meeting after today. | 00:11:00 | |
| Will be the third a public hearing on the budget. | 00:11:05 | |
| And at that point that evening, we should be reviewing for the final time and formally approving the budget. So that will be on | 00:11:09 | |
| June 18th at 6:30. | 00:11:13 | |
| So, with all that in mind, can I hear a motion to adjourn? | 00:11:19 | |
| I motion to adjourn. | 00:11:25 | |
| Second, all in favor? | 00:11:27 | |
| Aye, all right. Meeting turned. | 00:11:30 |
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Transcript
| All right, I'm calling this meeting to order. | 00:00:08 | |
| We're going to start with the pledge. | 00:00:12 | |
| Chief, would you like to lead us? | 00:00:19 | |
| Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. | 00:00:22 | |
| And to the Republic for which it stands. | 00:00:26 | |
| One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:29 | |
| All right, so the city has a hearing loop system. | 00:00:37 | |
| In the council chambers, a wireless network for those with hearing aids. | 00:00:41 | |
| Signals can be picked up by most hearing aids. The city also has loop receivers for those who still have some difficulty hearing. | 00:00:45 | |
| Anyone with questions can contact the ADA Coordinator City Manager to allow the city to make reasonable accommodations. | 00:00:53 | |
| This meeting is being broadcast online via a link on the City Council meeting information page of the city website. | 00:01:00 | |
| This also provides closed captioning. | 00:01:07 | |
| Click the CC icon in the lower right corner. | 00:01:09 | |
| When the video is posted, CC will automatically appear. | 00:01:12 | |
| A transcript of the meeting is under the Transcript tab. | 00:01:16 | |
| The current month's agenda is posted a week before the meeting to allow time to provide comments in writing to the clerk. | 00:01:20 | |
| All right, so this is a public hearing. | 00:01:29 | |
| For the purpose to speak towards the mileage rate. | 00:01:33 | |
| After we're gonna. | 00:01:38 | |
| Before we go into it, the manager is going to give a brief overview of it, but when it is time for the public hearing, you are to | 00:01:40 | |
| speak from the podium. | 00:01:43 | |
| 4 minutes per person. | 00:01:47 | |
| Please refrain from debate, argument, personal attacks, or irrelevant discussion. | 00:01:49 | |
| Address only the merits of the pending matter and address remarks directly to Council. | 00:01:55 | |
| Council can't speak to potential litigation. | 00:02:00 | |
| Attorney-client, or personnel matters. | 00:02:04 | |
| So, Manager Dickerson, if you will, please. | 00:02:07 | |
| Give your overview of the proposed 2025 mileage rate. | 00:02:11 | |
| Thank you, Mayor. Pretend. | 00:02:17 | |
| So the. | 00:02:19 | |
| Excuse me, the city's net property tax digest for 2025 is estimated as a little bit more than 274,000,000. That's an increase of | 00:02:21 | |
| almost 13%. | 00:02:25 | |
| Or $30 million over. | 00:02:30 | |
| 2024 property values. | 00:02:32 | |
| A lot of that, about 18,000 of that, so a little bit more than half of that. | 00:02:35 | |
| Is attributed to new developments or improvements to existing properties. | 00:02:39 | |
| The mileage rate that we're proposing for this year will remain the exact same as the current. | 00:02:44 | |
| Mileage rate. | 00:02:49 | |
| However, that is .1 to 2 mills higher. | 00:02:51 | |
| Than the estimated rollback rate of 2.634 mills. | 00:02:54 | |
| That will generate property taxes of 756,000 and five dollars. | 00:02:59 | |
| Which is an additional of $84,144.00 over FY25 revenues. | 00:03:05 | |
| I do have and I guess let me point out a couple things so. | 00:03:12 | |
| House valued a fair amount market value of 300,000. | 00:03:16 | |
| Again, it would say the exact same as this year unless there were improvements made of that property or it's a new property that | 00:03:19 | |
| hasn't had taxes before, like properties that are being developed in Trove or wherever they may be. | 00:03:24 | |
| That tax on a fair market value home with a homestead exemption would be $325.21 at the 2.756 mills. | 00:03:30 | |
| And for a non homestead property or commercial property, a fair market value of 500,000, the bill would be $551.20. | 00:03:38 | |
| Again, property values or property taxes are based on values that are identified on January 1. | 00:03:46 | |
| Of a budget of any calendar year. | 00:03:52 | |
| The bills are provided in August. Those are provided by the Tax commissioner. | 00:03:55 | |
| Based on the tax assessors data. | 00:04:00 | |
| Our budgets are July. | 00:04:02 | |
| Through June, which means we don't get their revenues for until the end of the count of the calendar year till the quarter two of | 00:04:04 | |
| the calendar year. | 00:04:07 | |
| So I think it's always important to point out, you know, the value of these property taxes. | 00:04:12 | |
| So right now based on the garbage leaf and limb services that are provided to the public. | 00:04:16 | |
| A resident would pay $27.00 a month for household or works out to $324 a year. | 00:04:23 | |
| Per household for the weekly garbage in the weekly leaf and limb pickup. | 00:04:28 | |
| And if we were to look at public safety and law enforcement services as alone as a standalone, that value is $598 a year, again, | 00:04:33 | |
| substantially less than what a homestead property. | 00:04:39 | |
| Would pay into property taxes. | 00:04:45 | |
| This information that's on the screen will appear in the paper probably next week. | 00:04:48 | |
| So that the public will see. | 00:04:52 | |
| The actual data. | 00:04:54 | |
| The five year history tax digest history which is required by the tax biller. Tax bill payers. | 00:04:56 | |
| Bill of Rights. | 00:05:02 | |
| And so you'll see that there's. | 00:05:04 | |
| And then gross digest is 287. After exemptions, our net digest is 274 million and some change. | 00:05:07 | |
| That's an increase of about. | 00:05:14 | |
| 4%. | 00:05:16 | |
| The taxes levied again. | 00:05:18 | |
| Because we've seen so much growth. | 00:05:21 | |
| That's what's making up the $84,000 that and any again, any improvements to existing. | 00:05:22 | |
| Buildings, whether they be commercial or residential. | 00:05:29 | |
| Point out that if you were to roll it back, so this is your proposed mileage rate, which would everybody's would stay the same | 00:05:33 | |
| again unless there were improvements made. | 00:05:37 | |
| And and if the tax assessor picked those up or not? | 00:05:41 | |
| They're using the rollback. There would be a. | 00:05:44 | |
| $14.40 difference that that means they would pay $14.40 less. | 00:05:47 | |
| In taxes for the year if you have a $300,000. | 00:05:53 | |
| Homestead valued property and on the commercial side for a non homestead at 500,000 they would see a $24.40. | 00:05:56 | |
| Reduction, if you will, over this year's taxes. | 00:06:05 | |
| And that's it. | 00:06:09 | |
| Thank you, Manager Dickerson. That was very helpful. I really appreciate the. | 00:06:14 | |
| Showing the value of the services that the city provides, even at the current mileage rate. | 00:06:19 | |
| So it's time for a public hearing if anyone would like to. | 00:06:26 | |
| Speak, I have my timer all ready and happy to hear your comments. | 00:06:30 | |
| If you'll again state your name and address for the record. | 00:06:41 | |
| Is it out OK? | 00:06:50 | |
| Madam Chair, PRO Chairman, Council Member and. | 00:06:53 | |
| Chief Allwood, nice guy. | 00:06:57 | |
| Nice car. | 00:06:59 | |
| Spend a little time talking with him. | 00:07:01 | |
| I've got 3 items I wanted to bring to your attention. | 00:07:03 | |
| Once again in the body of your. | 00:07:08 | |
| Budget document. | 00:07:11 | |
| They singled me out. | 00:07:13 | |
| Single Bob Smith out not just once, not twice, but several times. | 00:07:15 | |
| The lawsuits are filed against this city and others. Rightly so. Rightly so. | 00:07:20 | |
| Pause, you hear? This is not about budget. This is only about the mileage rate. That's what this public hearing is for, is my | 00:07:28 | |
| understanding. | 00:07:32 | |
| We will have public comment on budget. | 00:07:36 | |
| Later on this evening, but I just want to make sure that. | 00:07:40 | |
| What you're commenting on is about the mill rate. | 00:07:44 | |
| So this affects the mileage rate totally what I'm about to say. | 00:07:48 | |
| OK, so. | 00:07:54 | |
| So, so going back to that. | 00:07:55 | |
| Through open records I find that. | 00:07:59 | |
| Two law firms have been hired by this city. | 00:08:02 | |
| One to the total Atlanta law firm. | 00:08:06 | |
| $16,419.60 and Athens law firm now I was 20,116 thousand dollars. | 00:08:08 | |
| 20,116. | 00:08:17 | |
| She also hired a local law firm for. | 00:08:19 | |
| 16,419. | 00:08:22 | |
| So. | 00:08:26 | |
| Maybe perhaps you ought to put that in your budget because that's an it's quite a quite a lot of money at taxpayer spent second | 00:08:27 | |
| thing, the salary of the governor. | 00:08:32 | |
| It's 182,000 last time I checked. | 00:08:37 | |
| 111.8 million. | 00:08:40 | |
| The chairman of Oconee County Commissioner has 45,000 people. | 00:08:43 | |
| And he makes 123,607. | 00:08:47 | |
| The Oconee County Commissioner Administrator. | 00:08:51 | |
| 45,000. | 00:08:55 | |
| People. | 00:08:57 | |
| And he has 378 employees. He makes 100. | 00:08:58 | |
| However, the city of Watkinsville has 3000 people. | 00:09:04 | |
| And about 15 employees I don't know. | 00:09:08 | |
| Making $109,299.46 and this is from the latest reports I could find. | 00:09:11 | |
| Further, umm. | 00:09:18 | |
| When you're budgeting. | 00:09:20 | |
| Please. | 00:09:22 | |
| Please look at properly financing funding the Police Department so they can have a presence in Watkinsville to slow this traffic | 00:09:24 | |
| down. I know you've received my letters, multiple letters and, and, and it's unacceptable. | 00:09:32 | |
| When my grandchildren are 1015 feet away from Mccree St. and I have to. | 00:09:40 | |
| Move them in a fenced area because they're flying down the street. | 00:09:45 | |
| 18 Willis, you've already seen my letters and all. | 00:09:49 | |
| But this is very important thing and I just wanted to raise these points about your budget. | 00:09:54 | |
| Increasing from 1.8 million to 3.4 million. | 00:10:01 | |
| In just four years. Thank you. | 00:10:06 | |
| All right, and. | 00:10:11 | |
| Clerk, did you receive any comments? | 00:10:12 | |
| No, ma'am, I did not. OK. | 00:10:16 | |
| All right, so I am if there's no other comments. | 00:10:23 | |
| I am going to close the public hearing. | 00:10:27 | |
| And go over the next steps. | 00:10:31 | |
| So this evening at 5:00 we have a work session where we as council and mayor are going to be reviewing the budget. | 00:10:34 | |
| And then tonight at the City Council meeting, which is at 6:30, there will be another public hearing. | 00:10:44 | |
| And that will be the second one and that will be about the budget. | 00:10:52 | |
| Not the military. | 00:10:56 | |
| And then? | 00:10:58 | |
| On Wednesday, June 18th, which is the next City Council meeting after today. | 00:11:00 | |
| Will be the third a public hearing on the budget. | 00:11:05 | |
| And at that point that evening, we should be reviewing for the final time and formally approving the budget. So that will be on | 00:11:09 | |
| June 18th at 6:30. | 00:11:13 | |
| So, with all that in mind, can I hear a motion to adjourn? | 00:11:19 | |
| I motion to adjourn. | 00:11:25 | |
| Second, all in favor? | 00:11:27 | |
| Aye, all right. Meeting turned. | 00:11:30 |