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All right. Welcome everybody to the. | 00:00:04 | |
August City Council meeting. | 00:00:07 | |
Appreciate. Appreciate everybody who's here with us and who's watching online. We do have a quorum here. | 00:00:10 | |
Tonight. Thanks. Looks like we have perfect attendance. Thanks everybody for being here. And with that, we will kick off with the | 00:00:16 | |
Pledge of Allegiance. Officer Rachel Stearns. If you could lead us in the pledge, that would be great. | 00:00:21 | |
I. | 00:00:26 | |
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, | 00:00:33 | |
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:39 | |
Thank you. | 00:00:47 | |
All right, Council, you have had the packet for several days at this point at this point. | 00:00:55 | |
And ask for approval of the minutes from the July 20th, July 20th meeting if you have. | 00:01:00 | |
Unless there are any edits to those meetings. | 00:01:07 | |
I make a motion to approve the Minutes. | 00:01:10 | |
We have a motion. Do we have a second? | 00:01:13 | |
We have a motion and a second assuming there's no discussion, all in favor of approving the minute say aye. Any opposed? | 00:01:16 | |
All right. We have 40. Thank you. I always wonder why people vote to approve the minutes of a meeting they don't attend. So, | 00:01:24 | |
Councilman Thomas, thank you for abstaining there. | 00:01:28 | |
The Just a couple quick housekeeping reminders that I forgot to do at the start. This meeting is being broadcast online. That | 00:01:33 | |
said, it's not interactive, so if you have a comment or something that you wish to make, please try to do that in advance. The | 00:01:40 | |
packet is posted in advance online, so any citizen, yes, or anyone else who wants to review that online has access to that. | 00:01:47 | |
We are a little less formal here in Watkinsville than other municipalities, so if anyone does have a comment that they wish to | 00:01:55 | |
make on a matter that before the council, that's at council, Mayor and legal counsel's discretion. There are certain parts were | 00:02:01 | |
required to accept feedback, but if you have something that you want to discuss with council, please raise your hand, indicate | 00:02:07 | |
that and if council sees fit, we will let you comment on it. Of course, no arguing. | 00:02:13 | |
Debate with Council and if you make comments to council, they need to be towards Council, not towards the audience as it is | 00:02:20 | |
tonight. | 00:02:24 | |
Approval of the agenda. We do have two items to add to the agenda tonight under public hearing. We want to add Item 6A council | 00:02:29 | |
vote on amendments to the subdivision ordinance. | 00:02:34 | |
And then under new business, we want to add item eleven approval, approve submittal of Girma and GMA safety grant application | 00:02:38 | |
Manager. Dickerson will walk us through both of those and what we need to do. But if you are comfortable making those additions to | 00:02:44 | |
the agenda, then I'll take a motion to that effect. | 00:02:49 | |
I would like to ask that we table I have not had a full. | 00:02:57 | |
Chance to dig a deep dive into the amendments of the subdivision ordinance. I don't know if everybody else. | 00:03:02 | |
Did but I'd like to table that till next. I looked through it today and it is red line which I greatly appreciate and. | 00:03:09 | |
It's pretty. There's also that summary page. Yeah. Of it it's. I mean it's it's things like taking instead of faxing, emailing | 00:03:18 | |
digital copies and then taking County out where it's not. I mean, yeah, so I I read through all the highlighted red stuff today, | 00:03:26 | |
all 87 pages of that. But in reading such I I I dove down into a few more things and you. | 00:03:33 | |
Things in there that I would like to discuss further as a Council. | 00:03:42 | |
That probably ought to be relooked at. So what? | 00:03:46 | |
We. | 00:03:50 | |
Have the hearing, but hold the vote. Have the hearing or I mean. | 00:03:52 | |
To me, reading through it, there were things that were long overdue and just getting cleaned up. So what if we? | 00:03:57 | |
Consider still consider it tonight. | 00:04:04 | |
But maybe we need to add later to look more in depth. | 00:04:06 | |
The actual like let's do this, let's let's approve the agenda, let's keep that on and then let's have this discussion. When we get | 00:04:12 | |
to the agenda item, we can always decide the table and we get to the agenda item. For now, let's if if we can add those two items | 00:04:18 | |
under new business, then we will kind of talk about the subdivision regs conceptually and whether we want to adopt them as they | 00:04:24 | |
are but can but come back with some more edits perhaps the next month once Councilman Thomas had a chance to review. | 00:04:30 | |
I need, I think. I need. I think I need a motion. I make the motion to accept the agenda with those two additions. All right, we | 00:04:37 | |
have the motion. Do we have a second? We have a second. Any discussion hearing? None. All in favor, say aye. All right, The agenda | 00:04:42 | |
is approved. | 00:04:46 | |
All right. We will move on to administration. We have a brief overview of our public input process. | 00:04:51 | |
Earlier we've had two more people come in, but those two know the rules because they come to our meetings frequently. So welcome | 00:04:57 | |
Kathleen and Lawrence. Glad you guys are here tonight. So we will turn it over to City Manager Dickerson to walk us through our | 00:05:02 | |
financials, economic development reports and then we'll turn it over to the Chief for the eagerly awaited Police Department | 00:05:06 | |
report. So. | 00:05:11 | |
Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Everyone should have gotten the the profit loss for the revenues and expenses we are. | 00:05:17 | |
Trending fine. We're actually at the first of the year. A lot of things don't come in as a norm, you know come in after July. So | 00:05:26 | |
we they came in in July, we don't see them till August. So right now we're doing fine expenses wise and revenue wise. If there any | 00:05:32 | |
questions on that, I'm happy to take those, but we are doing fine on that. | 00:05:37 | |
On the splice, we've got three to look at SPLOST One, This is the remaining money. The remaining money here will be used for the | 00:05:44 | |
water and sewer project, Sewer line A that is going through the industrial park. | 00:05:50 | |
And it will be coupled with money that is in and and neither one of spots one or two are still receiving revenues. All these | 00:05:56 | |
revenues this, these have closed out as far as revenues go there remaining money in here for the most part is going towards sewer | 00:06:00 | |
line A as well. | 00:06:05 | |
Any questions on these? | 00:06:13 | |
All right on Spice 3. | 00:06:16 | |
Things to note, we have encumber. We've extended money on the jaws of life for the fire department, relocating the metal | 00:06:19 | |
playground and some. | 00:06:23 | |
Preliminary electric at Rocket Field resurfacing and fixing a storm pipe at Leo Lane and working on the branding and signage | 00:06:28 | |
effort. So and then we've encumbered some funds for some capital equipment you guys did in the fiscal year 22 budget. We are | 00:06:34 | |
trending about $8000 more a month right now we are expecting. | 00:06:41 | |
You know, to see more once Costco opens and stuff. We'll see more money come in with that. Any questions? | 00:06:49 | |
On that on two or three, just just for clarity for those who are watching online, we're trending 8000 more on the positive on the | 00:06:55 | |
revenue side not on the expense side. Yeah, we're collecting $8000 more and this this shows you the. | 00:07:01 | |
Sort of house it's. | 00:07:07 | |
So our bank balance is a little bit more than half a million. | 00:07:12 | |
For this right? | 00:07:15 | |
I know questions on that AARP. So the ARP, I think I reminded y'all last meeting that that that we were due the second transfer, | 00:07:18 | |
the second deposit from the US Treasury which flowed through the state to. | 00:07:25 | |
Another $548,000. | 00:07:32 | |
Roughly. | 00:07:36 | |
760 Sixty $1000 that you have not appropriate to a specific project. | 00:07:38 | |
This money is sorry, I did not mean to hit that. What happens when you're looking at it. So this money is now essentially general | 00:07:44 | |
fund money. It's the state offered, the federal government offered the opportunity for cities that we're getting less than $10 | 00:07:52 | |
million to use this money as a lot revenue replacement loss revenue option, a standard allowance. And so the city did take that | 00:07:59 | |
allowance. And so basically this is general fund money. I still have to report annually on this. | 00:08:06 | |
However, you don't have to use it in those categories that were required by the US Treasury before. Like you don't have to use it | 00:08:14 | |
for COVID measures or or public safety or or essential employees. You can use it for whatever you want, which is good because you | 00:08:19 | |
that gives you a lot of flexibility, however. | 00:08:24 | |
I think certainly. | 00:08:31 | |
The the guiding principle is that it be used for transformational purposes within your community. | 00:08:33 | |
With that said, you you still have some transformation to do decide how you're going to spend it. So any specific questions on | 00:08:38 | |
those? | 00:08:42 | |
We did. I do want to point out that during the fiscal year 22 and you'll learn about this in the in the audit. | 00:08:48 | |
You all approved, I think it was $132,000 for public safety personnel to to amend the budget to so we wouldn't have to go in the | 00:08:54 | |
general fund. We use some of this money. You may note up there we only used 87.5. | 00:09:01 | |
So that money rolled back into your non appropriated amount. | 00:09:08 | |
So that's good. And when we get the audit, when the audit auditors come back in November to do the report, you'll hear about that. | 00:09:13 | |
So did that reduce the impact on fund balance? I'm assuming is that accurate in terms of how that impacted the well, so this money | 00:09:18 | |
was being used instead of fund balance? | 00:09:23 | |
So fund balance wasn't affected because we use this instead, but because we didn't need all of it, it just went back into into | 00:09:29 | |
this. So OK, back but. | 00:09:34 | |
Actually, it never left, did it, chief. So right. | 00:09:41 | |
OK. | 00:09:46 | |
All right, Economic. | 00:09:47 | |
We don't have any, believe it or not, for business, alcohol or insurance this month. | 00:09:50 | |
Kind of unusual. We usually have a couple on the permanent side we have. | 00:09:56 | |
27 building permits for 14 projects, the majority of which are Trove single family residential homes that are going up. | 00:10:01 | |
And four of them are also related to the Wire Park development project. | 00:10:07 | |
Any questions about those? | 00:10:14 | |
Good evening, Mayor Council. | 00:10:24 | |
Good evening. It's always a pleasure to be in front of you again. | 00:10:25 | |
I have submitted a couple of reports, one rather lengthy report, and that's a comparison report that the mayor asked me for last | 00:10:29 | |
month. | 00:10:33 | |
And my monthly report that I produce for you on a monthly basis, Are there any questions over the monthly report? | 00:10:38 | |
No questions. OK, pretty clear cut, Straightforward. | 00:10:47 | |
All right. Well, let's move on to the comparison report. | 00:10:53 | |
So it was very interesting, Mayor asked me last month. | 00:10:57 | |
Look at some comparison. So I went back and looked at some historical data from the signs, the sign locations, and so it was | 00:11:02 | |
imperative that I found signs that were in the same locations for that duration of time from from 2020 to 2022. | 00:11:08 | |
Then if you remember way back in March of 2020, we had a thing called a pandemic where we locked everybody down and kept everybody | 00:11:16 | |
from going anywhere. | 00:11:20 | |
So I had to kind of evaluate what months I picked up, so I got as close to current. | 00:11:25 | |
2020. | 00:11:30 | |
Months wise, July and. | 00:11:32 | |
So June, we were starting to emerge. | 00:11:34 | |
June of 2020, we're starting to emerge from the COVID era and we're starting to see traffic gains and things like that, So it's a | 00:11:38 | |
pretty good comparison. | 00:11:41 | |
So what does it show? Shows a lot of stuff, actually. | 00:11:45 | |
There's a fluctuation in quantity of vehicles that naturally over the over the time frame each each roadway saw a fluctuation of | 00:11:49 | |
vehicles that was generally a very significant increase in vehicles. | 00:11:54 | |
The interesting part is, is that every roadway experienced a percentage of reduction from, you know, generally 4 to 7%. | 00:12:02 | |
The largest being Barnett Shoals at 52%, but that's largely in part due to the speed change reduction from 35 to 25. | 00:12:11 | |
So that that that's why that's such a significant number. | 00:12:18 | |
But the other element that was very intriguing to me. | 00:12:22 | |
Is the fact that I've highlighted in the summary report that the one that five mile an hour over is posted speed? | 00:12:26 | |
So if your speech is 25, it starts recording at 26. That's a violation. The sign sees as a violation, so one to five. | 00:12:34 | |
Saw a significant increase on all the roadways. The six to 10 saw a significant increase on the roadways. Well if you go back to | 00:12:43 | |
2020 and look at the 15 to 20. | 00:12:47 | |
Those were high. Those all decreased. So we're taking those violators that were violating. | 00:12:52 | |
The speeds that would have gotten them pulled over and wrote tickets. | 00:12:58 | |
And we've got them in a range that now is a much more manageable and appreciable speed. | 00:13:02 | |
So that, I think, is a win all the way around. | 00:13:07 | |
Anybody have any questions or any comments? | 00:13:12 | |
To clarify the. | 00:13:15 | |
The speeding 5 between 1:00 to 10:00 mph is actually higher than it used to be, but anything over 10 mph has gone down a lot. Yes, | 00:13:19 | |
yes, absolutely. So just as an example here, the 11 to 20 mile per hour violations reduced on Experiment Station by 4000 vehicles | 00:13:27 | |
from 2020 to 2022. The one to five increased by 11,000 vehicles. | 00:13:35 | |
And the six to 10 mile an hour violations increased by 11,600. And there, you know, here's a significant one signed up to Bridge. | 00:13:44 | |
1120 mile an hour violations were reduced by over 34,000 vehicles. | 00:13:53 | |
The one to five mile an hour violations increased by 29,500. | 00:13:58 | |
And then the six to 10 decreased by over 6200 vehicles but. | 00:14:04 | |
The. | 00:14:10 | |
And again, the interesting element to that is when you start looking at. | 00:14:11 | |
11 to 20 and higher, you see a decline in those numbers, significant decline which is which I think is a. | 00:14:16 | |
Very relevant to the fact that we're we both educated, we've got public that's driving through, that's aware and we're visibly | 00:14:24 | |
present and taking enforcement action. | 00:14:29 | |
Yeah. All right. | 00:14:36 | |
Other things we had going on, we had Taser certification class last Friday. | 00:14:40 | |
That was a lot of fun. It was a shocking experience for a few. | 00:14:44 | |
Was we actually ended up Tasing four of our own. Five of our own. Five of our own for getting them certified. | 00:14:49 | |
In. | 00:14:57 | |
And we had five deputies from the Sheriff's Office who were deploying the Taser 7. So they were in attendance and learning how to | 00:14:59 | |
deploy the new weapon that's that was a great thing. And then I'm very happy to announce that we are on the verge of being able to | 00:15:05 | |
release a motorcycle unit, a new tool in our arsenal. | 00:15:11 | |
For speed traffic enforcement, it'll be a. | 00:15:18 | |
Unexpected surprise for a few that would be out there, unsuspecting to see a motorcycle pull them over. | 00:15:22 | |
The interesting thing about this is Major Tedderton is owed a great deal of credit. He found these motorcycles on Gov deals. | 00:15:31 | |
Made a telephone call. Made a serious, serious personal connection with the person in Cary, NC. | 00:15:38 | |
They had them on the Gov Deals website to be sold at. | 00:15:44 | |
He told him we wanted to put him in, in in service to, you know. | 00:15:49 | |
Do traffic enforcement with them. They pulled them off the auction and went to council and gave both motorcycles. | 00:15:53 | |
To US for $1500. | 00:16:01 | |
These are, you know, BMW RT12 hundreds that you know, 10 to $15,000. | 00:16:05 | |
So it's a great asset and it's going to be a great tool to employ and. | 00:16:11 | |
Give a Give a new shot of the Walkersville Police Department. | 00:16:16 | |
Any questions over the most of? | 00:16:19 | |
We're excited to see them in service and and out there on the roadway and then doing it. I've got 2 motorcycle operators that are | 00:16:22 | |
itching to get on what we get behind the wheel. | 00:16:27 | |
All right. And last Friday evening, I was honored to be in attendance with a Academic Achieving Honor Graduate. | 00:16:33 | |
Of the Piedmont Technical College for the police Academy. | 00:16:44 | |
Rachel Stearns and if the mayor would do us the honor. | 00:16:47 | |
I would love for you to. | 00:16:51 | |
Swear this. | 00:16:53 | |
Rachel, turn and face me. | 00:17:12 | |
All right. All right. You're going to repeat. | 00:17:15 | |
Take one step closer. I think Sharon's trying to get you right for the camera. She's trying to get a picture. OK, all right, OK. | 00:17:20 | |
All right. | 00:17:26 | |
Raise your right hand and repeat after me, OK? I Rachel. Zoe Stearns. | 00:17:27 | |
Do hereby solemnly swear that. | 00:17:33 | |
Do hereby solemnly swear that I will support and defend. | 00:17:36 | |
The Constitution of the United States of America. | 00:17:40 | |
Of the United States of America, I will support and defend the Constitution. | 00:17:44 | |
All support independent hospitals of the State of Georgia. | 00:17:48 | |
I will support and defend. | 00:17:52 | |
The Charter and Ordinances of the City of Watkinsville. | 00:17:55 | |
I am not the holder. | 00:18:02 | |
Of any office of trust. | 00:18:04 | |
Under the government of the United States. | 00:18:07 | |
Under the government of the. | 00:18:09 | |
Any other state or any foreign state. | 00:18:11 | |
Any other state or any foreign. | 00:18:14 | |
Which I am by the laws of the. | 00:18:16 | |
Which I am by the laws of the state of Georgia prohibited from. | 00:18:19 | |
Of Georgia prohibited from. | 00:18:24 | |
I am otherwise qualified. | 00:18:26 | |
To hold the office of a peace officer. | 00:18:29 | |
According to the Constitution. | 00:18:34 | |
And laws of the State of Georgia. | 00:18:37 | |
I am not the holder. | 00:18:40 | |
Of any unaccountable public. | 00:18:42 | |
Of any unaccountable public money do. | 00:18:44 | |
Or any public political subdiv. | 00:18:48 | |
For any public political subdivision or authority thereof. | 00:18:51 | |
And I accept the law. | 00:18:56 | |
Code of Ethics of the International Association of Chiefs of Police. | 00:18:59 | |
The International Association of Chiefs of Police as my standard of conduct. | 00:19:04 | |
While on and off. | 00:19:10 | |
And swear to, faithfully abide by and defend the. | 00:19:13 | |
Those were faithfully abide by, and do the same, and. | 00:19:16 | |
I will faithfully follow the orders of the Chief of police. | 00:19:21 | |
Order. | 00:19:24 | |
Follow the orders that you and to the best of my ability. | 00:19:25 | |
Faithfully and justly perform. | 00:19:29 | |
That's all right. The duties and obligations. | 00:19:34 | |
Of a. | 00:19:39 | |
In. | 00:19:41 | |
Benevolent. | 00:19:42 | |
And Civil Man. | 00:19:45 | |
During my Commission. | 00:19:46 | |
During my Commission, so help me God. | 00:19:48 | |
Congratulations. | 00:19:51 | |
All right, You want to come up for a picture? Don't have your family up. We do the badge fitting. | 00:19:58 | |
All right, it hasn't. As a matter of honor and tradition, we like for the newly sworn officer to be pinned by one of their loved | 00:20:07 | |
ones. | 00:20:12 | |
If you would come forward. | 00:20:17 | |
Just like we practice. | 00:20:22 | |
All right, y'all, come on right up here. | 00:21:12 | |
Switch. | 00:21:25 | |
Right. | 00:21:28 | |
You. | 00:21:52 | |
That concludes our four other AM if there's any other questions. | 00:22:27 | |
Chief Where? So I think one of the things. | 00:22:33 | |
Is important and you know I want this to be in the record. | 00:22:37 | |
The improvement and the speeds around the city have been a goal for what? I mean three or four years, you know, through several | 00:22:40 | |
different administration, several different city councils, and I think you know. | 00:22:45 | |
Speed limit. Changing the speed limits is one thing, but you have in the resources you need to enforce. | 00:22:51 | |
And get that done for the citizens of Watkinsville. It's a real tribute to you guys in a tough hiring environment. You've rebuilt | 00:22:56 | |
the department as we've had a lot of transitions. So credit to you into the major and Y'all's leadership and it's always exciting. | 00:23:02 | |
Swearing new officers too, but I think it's important to connect the dots. This is the second month in a row that we've done this, | 00:23:09 | |
but even as all that transitions occurred to see the tremendous drop in speeds, which was a huge, huge. | 00:23:15 | |
I would say it's a complaint for many of our citizens who live on those quarters. So even though it's frustrated some people from | 00:23:22 | |
outside the city, I think that's a big win for our citizens. So thank you. Thank you. | 00:23:27 | |
I would love to see. I didn't. Maybe I missed it and all, but your report on the on the changes was it. I'm not the only one, | 00:23:37 | |
Chief. I did not see that in there either. I'm seeing this. | 00:23:42 | |
I didn't say I would love just a like get that because that's something that would be good to have on hand because, you know, | 00:23:50 | |
people still like it's good to be like no speeds have really decreased, I mean. | 00:23:57 | |
Let me do this for you. I'll give you my copy. | 00:24:05 | |
You. | 00:24:09 | |
Now I see them now they're definitely in there. Somehow I missed. | 00:24:11 | |
This page. | 00:24:15 | |
I understand, I understand. I print so many documents for the Council. I just planned everything. There's plenty of paper. All | 00:24:18 | |
right. Well, chief, thank you and thank you to your team. | 00:24:23 | |
I'm looking at the scrolling one that has it all. | 00:24:30 | |
The attorney I'll indicate when you step forward and the hearing is open, 4 minutes per person. We're not going to debate on that. | 00:25:06 | |
Address your comments to the council, but before we do the zoning map public hearing, we will turn it over to the manager for an | 00:25:11 | |
update on that. | 00:25:16 | |
So the real brief update on this is simply that since 2009, the Council has made decisions. | 00:25:22 | |
Most of them actually in the last three years about zoning matters that need to be reflected on the map and all we're simply doing | 00:25:29 | |
is making sure that the map is current with those changes. So good example would be Wire Park. You see off in the eastern part of | 00:25:35 | |
the of the map, you see that big orange with a couple yellow squares, that's Wire Park. That was a huge project that you guys | 00:25:41 | |
rezoned. So we're just simply trying to make sure the map reflects those decisions. | 00:25:48 | |
That's really all it is. | 00:25:55 | |
OK. | 00:25:58 | |
Well, I think we're going to do public hearing and then it'll come back to us under new business, correct? | 00:26:00 | |
So at this point, I do have a couple questions about that, but I think we'll follow the process so we have a public hearing. | 00:26:05 | |
Is there anyone who wants to make a comment a member of the public? The public hearing is now. | 00:26:11 | |
Any members of the audience wish to make a comment on the zoning map? | 00:26:16 | |
You'll have a chance. We are going to talk about Rocket Field, Kathleen. So you know, I mean, so you'll have your chance. You'll | 00:26:24 | |
have your chance. | 00:26:27 | |
You need to go. You have to go. Well, I can't see the matter. | 00:26:30 | |
Yeah. And I'll provide just. | 00:26:34 | |
Is there going to be another hearing office? | 00:26:37 | |
No. Think we'll adopt it tonight unless you bring up something. | 00:26:41 | |
This is what we already have, and we're just going to make sure. We just need to make sure the colors are right. | 00:26:44 | |
All right. OK. All right. We'll hold on to it because we'll come back to it if you have a comment and we can ask it. OK. Did we | 00:26:49 | |
receive anything online, Julie, on this one? OK. So no online comments, no comments from the public. With that we're going to | 00:26:55 | |
close the public hearing council this, we will come back and discuss this under new business. | 00:27:01 | |
And then also for public hearing we have. | 00:27:08 | |
The ordinance. The amendments to the subdivision ordinance. | 00:27:13 | |
This also comes back to us. Does this come back under new business or no, it does not. Or yes, it does. | 00:27:17 | |
So we're going to vote on that after the public hearing. | 00:27:24 | |
So at this point, this is a part we're going to open another public hearing, this time for amendments to our subdivision ordinance | 00:27:30 | |
Manager Dickerson, if you want to give a overview of that as necessary, and then we will proceed with the public hearing. | 00:27:36 | |
All right. Thank you. Thank you, manager. Mayor, sorry. | 00:27:43 | |
So the subdivision regulations are part are also part of our zoning code. So this is only the first phase. I've got to bring that | 00:27:48 | |
before you guys the zoning code and updated as well. But the main focus of this is simply procedural. We're trying to make sure | 00:27:54 | |
that you know prior to me coming on board and even prior. | 00:28:00 | |
Clarify to reflect the regulations, who's doing them. I tried not to get too particular with with. | 00:28:42 | |
Too many. There was a lot of places that are put manager or his or her designee to give some flexibility so that we don't have to | 00:28:49 | |
come back and do this again. For instance, there's a place in there we talked about. | 00:28:54 | |
With a building or the city contracts with a building inspections permits, company Bureau, Veritas and I didn't want to put them | 00:29:01 | |
in there because it may change. So it's Simply put in city manager or his or her designee. I did also make some reference of some | 00:29:07 | |
changes where it said mayor because now the city manager has those for those administrative functions. | 00:29:13 | |
There are places in there where we left County and Oconee County because they're relevant, but only in the case where they're | 00:29:20 | |
where they have departments like the fire department or their Public Utilities department or something like that. | 00:29:26 | |
So again, this the, the work that was done, and I started on this actually in October and got sidelined and got back into it after | 00:29:33 | |
the first of the year. Our city engineer, who's not here tonight, look through it. Toby Cartilage, our compliance officer and | 00:29:39 | |
public works supervisor, looked at it. The attorney looked at it and then we sent it out to y'all so that you could look at. I | 00:29:44 | |
tried today. I got up a clean copy. I'm sorry, I meant to get one up earlier because some people look at clean copies better than | 00:29:50 | |
looking at Redline. | 00:29:55 | |
It's just such a huge task. There was no way we would have had time to go through all of this at the same time. So what we did was | 00:30:38 | |
we adopted it as it was and knowing that we were going to have to go die back in and fix it. So we fixed, we're fixing this. | 00:30:45 | |
And you're going to see the zoning code come back at some point, maybe after the first year. We'll see. | 00:30:52 | |
That's what that is. | 00:30:57 | |
OK. So to remind council, we're going to a public hearing, we'll hear from the public, then we'll close the public hearing, then | 00:30:59 | |
we'll have discussion behind the rail. OK. So any comments from the public on the subdivision code changes? | 00:31:05 | |
Court client to be received any. | 00:31:12 | |
No Sir, OK. | 00:31:14 | |
Right. With that, I'm going to close the public hearing to bring it back behind and we'll go to item 6A, which is discussion. | 00:31:16 | |
And potentially. | 00:31:22 | |
There were several items when I was looking through it that I felt like needed to be updated. | 00:31:54 | |
Because a lot of times we reference to G dot specs which we have to remind ourselves G. | 00:31:59 | |
Does not build subdivisions. | 00:32:07 | |
So some of it's kind of beefed up, but one. | 00:32:09 | |
In particular was the curbing. | 00:32:12 | |
And the recycled asphalt and it's that language is still in here. | 00:32:15 | |
That, I feel like, needs to be. | 00:32:22 | |
Addressed and taken out because. | 00:32:24 | |
Ton of asphalt was put down. Today is recycle. | 00:32:28 | |
Oconee County put that in. | 00:32:32 | |
Back in the mid 80s, I mean 2008 somewhere around in that range. | 00:32:35 | |
In this anyway, so it's kind of contradicting itself when it's. | 00:32:42 | |
We refer back to G dot specs. | 00:32:46 | |
We cannot run recycle. | 00:32:51 | |
OK. All right. Every, every time that you see laid down today is that? | 00:32:54 | |
And the curb in. | 00:32:58 | |
In the cross section is showing the L back curb in every subdivision in Watkinsville has what we call the Hollywood Rollover | 00:33:02 | |
Curve. | 00:33:06 | |
So that's a more that's geared more towards subdivisions where the L back is good in the cul-de-sac. | 00:33:11 | |
For water drainage, you know, controlling the water right and on the roadways, but. | 00:33:19 | |
In the subdivision we should give the. | 00:33:25 | |
Developer the option. At least give the developer developer the. | 00:33:28 | |
As high as concrete is today. | 00:33:33 | |
If you put the hell back in there, every time there's a driveway, it's got to be cut. | 00:33:37 | |
New concrete's got to be cut taken. | 00:33:42 | |
Hauled off before you can put the driveway. | 00:33:45 | |
When you use the Hollywood it it you just tie right into it. | 00:33:48 | |
Yeah, so that was one of the ones I noticed as well. That's page, page 62, item B, Curb and Gutter. | 00:33:55 | |
Referencing specifically the six inch vertical. | 00:34:03 | |
6 inch vertical curving. Alright, so let me, let me, let me just let's have a philosophical discussion real quick. Let's hear from | 00:34:05 | |
the manager because. | 00:34:09 | |
And let me hear from Joe first. Actually, if we want to make some more changes to this, does it have an advertising requirement or | 00:34:14 | |
is it a one month turn like say that? | 00:34:19 | |
Adopt these tonight, but then Chuck and Brett get sharing their thoughts. | 00:34:24 | |
In the next week or two, can we then make, can we then have another public hearing and adopt additional changes, right, since we | 00:34:29 | |
had an advertised public hearing for what has been presented, what has been available online, I think that's the primary item for | 00:34:35 | |
consideration tonight. And then have a subsequent discussion on Hollywood versus L back 6 inch curbs etcetera, etcetera, the | 00:34:41 | |
technical side of things, recycled asphalt etcetera at next month's meeting. But my recommendation from a purely attorney legal | 00:34:47 | |
perspective is. | 00:34:53 | |
We need to handle as a matter of housekeeping and legalities and enforceability. Let's get this to modern standards, reflecting | 00:34:59 | |
our actual practices, and get that done now and then come back and make these changes next month. You know from a legal | 00:35:06 | |
perspective that that would have to be my advice. The only question I do we. I don't. | 00:35:12 | |
1st I believe we have any pending building that this. | 00:35:19 | |
Come under question in the next month. Correct me if I'm wrong. Well, you never know. But we may have. I mean, we do have. | 00:35:24 | |
Things happening in town. So there could be something that it would be nice. You know, another little thing I noticed in there is, | 00:35:31 | |
should our sidewalks be 6 feet wide instead of five feet wide, You know, things like that, you know that that I think is a would | 00:35:38 | |
be a healthy change to make, you know, so, but we didn't advertise that. So I'd be more comfortable if we move forward I think | 00:35:44 | |
adopting what was advertised, but we all get our feedback to Sharon or call Sharon or sit with Sharon. | 00:35:51 | |
In the next week. So we can do another round of this in the next month or two because Chuck, I think you raised some great points. | 00:35:58 | |
Brett, it sounds like you have other thoughts. So I've got several. | 00:36:03 | |
So what's? What's Maybe, if you are comfortable, what's Sharon's made a lot of sausage here. Let's go ahead and get that, get that | 00:36:09 | |
taken care of, and then let's. | 00:36:13 | |
Make some more in the next month and bring that back before us and we can do that. Is that agreeable to y'all? Because everybody's | 00:36:18 | |
making good points, but I'd rather. | 00:36:21 | |
Us get this cleaned up because the last thing we want to do is have some. | 00:36:25 | |
I mean, technically, you know, somebody might be able to hold our feet to the fire and say, well, your process is different than | 00:36:28 | |
what you outline and your subdivision, Oregon, you know, everybody's been willing to work with us. But it's a little bit awkward | 00:36:33 | |
to have to for Sharon or Toby to say ignore what you're reading on the website. That's not our process. Here's a piece of paper | 00:36:38 | |
that shows our actual process. So. | 00:36:42 | |
So if we can live with that, let's propose. | 00:36:48 | |
To adopt this. | 00:36:51 | |
And then let's get. | 00:36:52 | |
And if you need to sit down with Sharon, if that's easier than do that, well, let's get that information to her so we can then get | 00:36:54 | |
that process for the as soon as possible for the next month. | 00:36:57 | |
All right. OK. All right. So I'll entertain a motion to adopt. | 00:37:02 | |
Adopt updated the changes to the code for subdivision section. CI make a motion that we adopt the changes to the code Appendix C | 00:37:06 | |
subdivisions. All right, we have a motion. Do we have a second? | 00:37:12 | |
We have a motion. We have a second. Any further discussion? | 00:37:19 | |
All in favor, say aye, any. | 00:37:23 | |
All right, Motion carries 5 O. Think I heard everybody right. | 00:37:26 | |
All right. We have only one appearance tonight, and I think she's on the screen and that is. | 00:37:33 | |
Congratulations to our City Engineer Mark Campbell on the addition of the lovely Sydney Dorrett. Let's keep Mark and his. | 00:37:40 | |
In our prayers as they begin this new phase of life that's very exciting. So beautiful little girl. | 00:37:48 | |
So any other appearances manager? Dickerson? | 00:37:57 | |
So that's a good night, right? All right, Rocket Field. | 00:38:00 | |
We had two great public input meetings, Christine and Connie. I think we're able to. | 00:38:06 | |
Make make one of those each if I remember right. | 00:38:13 | |
And based on that input, I'm going to what do we have coming up per share? Is it a do we have the summary or just the renderings? | 00:38:17 | |
OK. The summary, the summary is in your packet, but I'm going at a high level, I'm going to recap what we heard. OK, this so the | 00:38:25 | |
things that there were people every you know people came in and they had like one one person might have wanted something, right. | 00:38:31 | |
But the things that were consistent themes that we heard in feedback around Rocket Field. | 00:38:37 | |
We had a group of folks who are interested in a tank. | 00:38:43 | |
OK. | 00:38:47 | |
We had requests for Play area and Play spaces. | 00:38:49 | |
We had a request for nobody liked the gazebo, but everybody liked the idea of a shady spot or a potential place. You know, if you | 00:38:53 | |
wanted to have a place for people to sit or even a small stage, like was it Mayor Dave's thing? You know, something like that, A | 00:38:58 | |
gathering point. | 00:39:02 | |
So we had a lot of support for. | 00:39:07 | |
The dog people were all thrilled that there's still space for the dogs. They did request if there's a possibility to have some | 00:39:09 | |
shade towards the middle of the field that they like to use that. | 00:39:14 | |
And so those were very little input on the actual ball field design. | 00:39:20 | |
And then there was some technical feedback around electric and stuff that we can work through. | 00:39:25 | |
But those were the four big areas. You know, what's a, what's a? Is there some sort of a play space? | 00:39:29 | |
Can there be not a gazebo, but something else that we might be able to gather? | 00:39:34 | |
From the dog owners, can we have more shade? | 00:39:40 | |
You know, make sure there's water or some shaded benches. And then we had a new Lawrence and Kathleen were passionate about it and | 00:39:44 | |
some other people. | 00:39:48 | |
Bat. | 00:39:54 | |
So I think we've got and what I want to do tonight is I want to walk through this. Certainly Kathleen and Lawrence if you want to | 00:39:55 | |
offer feedback on what you see please, you'll have the opportunity to do it after I walk through them. These renderings aren't | 00:40:00 | |
exactly perfect but we were kind of we had our last public input session last Tuesday night. | 00:40:06 | |
So they turned them around for us really quickly, which was nice. So, but just keep in mind that these aren't perfect. It's not | 00:40:12 | |
how. | 00:40:15 | |
You know, rendered, but it'll give you an idea of where we're going I think. So Sharon, let's kind of start working through and | 00:40:19 | |
I'll just work you through this is option. | 00:40:24 | |
Not the ideal view but I wanted to capture it so you guys could see it. So this. | 00:40:30 | |
Shows. | 00:40:35 | |
What's called a it's it's kind of a simple sort of architectural playscape. It's a climbing net sort of structure. | 00:40:37 | |
In that northwest corner that's closest to, that's at the intersection. You're looking here at the intersection of 2nd and School | 00:40:44 | |
St. | 00:40:47 | |
OK, so that's kind of a simple sort of play scape in that corner. | 00:40:52 | |
What you see on the other corner is a is it is kind of a stage or a covered pavilion. | 00:40:56 | |
A lot of people asked for something different than a gazebo, but I think you know, most people thought, hey we could use something | 00:41:03 | |
like that what we were able to do by moving it to the other corner share and you can probably Click to the next slide if I'm | 00:41:07 | |
remembering the order correct. | 00:41:11 | |
When I got up next is. | 00:41:16 | |
OK. All right. Well, we'll go to. We'll stay here for a second then. | 00:41:18 | |
The the idea being by putting it in the other corner, it kind of balances out the concession stand and the scores tent. It also if | 00:41:23 | |
you wanted to have a gathering, a small concert, the fall festival is a very logical place to kind of have. | 00:41:31 | |
A stage or gathering area where people can access the whole field. We still with this design it's not shown would anticipate that | 00:41:38 | |
fence through the middle that could be removed that would allow the dog park the same space that it had but by putting the shade | 00:41:44 | |
structure in the middle. | 00:41:49 | |
And the pavilion? It acknowledges one of the requests of the dog park folks, which is, hey, that's a really hot side of the field. | 00:41:55 | |
How about we How about we take advantage of? How about we take advantage of that? | 00:42:03 | |
So let's go ahead to the next one. | 00:42:08 | |
And one of the solutions that we like for Patak was easily forgotten about Rocket Field is there's this little island of space | 00:42:11 | |
right up by Okaf. And we thought that by capturing that space we could plant trees, have some picnic tables. | 00:42:18 | |
I don't antis he didn't render it without the play space. I don't anticipate keeping the playscape in that area, but the idea | 00:42:26 | |
being that would be an ideal space for the patent courts where they have their own space. | 00:42:31 | |
But also during the in Lawrence, ignore the wooden surround of the sand. I'm sure we do something different than that, but the | 00:42:37 | |
idea being we can capture this small space we need to remove some power poles. | 00:42:43 | |
And we'd have space to do 2 to three different patent courts there. Plant some trees, you have a nice shaded area. | 00:42:49 | |
And it could be used for that. And in the fall festival, we could still put picnic tables in that area. We could still utilize | 00:42:55 | |
that area around with the food trucks and things like that, but you'd have a dedicated area. | 00:43:00 | |
For the patent court. So that's one option. OK, yeah, go ahead. What is the talk? | 00:43:06 | |
Yep. | 00:43:12 | |
It's bocce. It's bocce ball. Next question on that now that I know it. | 00:43:14 | |
Where do we anticipate keeping these balls so they don't wander off? | 00:43:23 | |
Yeah. | 00:43:31 | |
I love watching ball. I just never heard of. | 00:43:34 | |
Court, if you will, the same size as the box football court. | 00:43:40 | |
So like a wire park, they have bocce ball that set up that water park. | 00:43:44 | |
We did these to Lawrence suspects, what you sent us. So we did everything we did. I think we used your measurements, although you | 00:43:50 | |
had a much wider. I think you wanted for room for four. There's room for three in the space. He just didn't render it. But my | 00:43:54 | |
thought is we, I think we could fit three courts in this space. | 00:43:59 | |
So that looks like the entrance to the dog. Yeah. So there there's a little bit. I'm just, I'm just telling you, all these aren't | 00:44:04 | |
perfect, but it gives you a. | 00:44:08 | |
I mean, I think 4 is going to be a stretch just giving away the space is set up, but there may be I've rendered it multiple ways. | 00:44:13 | |
This was as good as I could get it for the meeting. Just the conceptually. The idea being I think we could do 3. | 00:44:19 | |
Baton slash bocce courts in that little island there and have some picnic tables and have some trees. | 00:44:25 | |
Can you Orient me to our map here? | 00:44:31 | |
If you go to your left, that's OCAF right there in front of. | 00:44:35 | |
No. So this is the other side. You've never, you might not have even ever noticed that Brett, but there is. | 00:44:42 | |
There. | 00:44:48 | |
Point. | 00:44:49 | |
.42 acre space that's just a grass island that sits next to the old the workshop room, so it goes over by the road that goes to | 00:44:51 | |
Pecan Bluff. That's right. So this is city owned property. | 00:44:56 | |
That is doing nothing but holding power poles right now. Yeah. So we want to recapture that property. | 00:45:03 | |
You know, and again, this is something I want to discuss, this could also be a great space for a little playground. But, but you | 00:45:09 | |
know, the thought is there's pros to that, right? You're close to parents sitting on the bleachers. The cons, they're crossing a | 00:45:14 | |
road to get back and forth to to that. | 00:45:19 | |
Built a $2,000,000 one right here and and so that so and that's my point with the simple the net structure is it's very simple. | 00:45:28 | |
It's relatively it's it's it's a artistic aesthetic. | 00:45:33 | |
It's doesn't we don't have to build up you know 8 foot surround made out of wood chips. You know it's it's very basic in terms of | 00:45:39 | |
what goes in but it's fun. | 00:45:43 | |
You know, so that was my thinking that it's something that's. | 00:45:47 | |
Somewhat kind of structural, but fun, but it's not, we're not going and buying. It's one piece of equipment that we install when | 00:45:50 | |
we keep going through and then we'll get the comments. Yeah, it's fine. So let's keep going. Sharon and I'll just walk y'all | 00:45:55 | |
through it. This is another view of. | 00:45:59 | |
The same sort of idea, but it would put both the patent courts and the. | 00:46:04 | |
The net, the net structure in the same corner there. | 00:46:10 | |
OK. So this would be just two patent courts, so it kind of? | 00:46:13 | |
The number of courts you can. The advantage to this side of the field is that it's the most shaded area. | 00:46:17 | |
OK, right now, currently. | 00:46:22 | |
Sharon. | 00:46:25 | |
Go ahead, let me just walk you through while we're getting opinions. | 00:46:26 | |
The fall festival, right. Yeah. So that's that's there's pros and cons there's trade-offs in all these This is another view that | 00:46:34 | |
shows a little bit more of how the. | 00:46:38 | |
The the stage structure and the concession stand playoff each other, they rendered in kind of some guys with some drums there just | 00:46:42 | |
to show that a light touch but. | 00:46:47 | |
Begins to show you sort of the feel, regardless of what's in that right corner. | 00:46:52 | |
The. | 00:46:57 | |
You can have things at each corner but still keep the the field open and you know, fully have it. Have a nice aesthetic to the | 00:47:00 | |
field. But I like the way that there's two structures balance each other and you can make them, you kind of ignore the | 00:47:04 | |
architecture, they could get pretty harmonious there, so. | 00:47:09 | |
Yeah, we'll come back to it. | 00:47:15 | |
All right, this is another view that shows it again with the dog entrance. Here we made that shade structure larger at the request | 00:47:17 | |
of the dog owners, but also know that the the the pavilion area could also function that way for the dog owners. They requested a | 00:47:23 | |
shady spot to sit so it could work that way. | 00:47:30 | |
This is an aerial view of how that would work. Again, it's missing that middle fence divider that we discussed for the. | 00:47:37 | |
We discussed this one does show the patent courts on the field rather than up in the island area. Again, I think the island area | 00:47:44 | |
is would probably be my preference for where to put them. | 00:47:49 | |
All right, let's go ahead. This is another view again from the higher up elevation sharing one more. This gives you an idea of | 00:47:55 | |
what it would look like from that pavilion space. | 00:48:00 | |
You see that they rendered a scoreboard in obviously ones green, ones black. I think the idea is once we have our new logo and our | 00:48:08 | |
branding, we can have a little bit of fun with that whatever we do with it. If we, we've got to raise private funds to do a | 00:48:12 | |
scoreboard. So we'll even have to see if that's possible. | 00:48:16 | |
Sharing. Is there more? I can't remember how many renderings we. | 00:48:22 | |
So those are the renderings. There's more, Brett. What was the one you were asking about another, the score scores? | 00:48:25 | |
Yeah, I had one of those and I don't think I teed it up. | 00:48:32 | |
I'm trying to think of the best picture of that. | 00:48:36 | |
Yeah, I can walk. I can talk you through it. So anyway that's that's kind of where we've gotten to I think at this point. | 00:48:40 | |
Council, we need to discuss these, get y'all's feedback and then. | 00:48:47 | |
Certainly Lawrence and Kathleen would love y'all's y'all's input or questions that y'all have to. So maybe like normal, let's | 00:48:52 | |
start with citizen feedback and then we'll bring it back behind the rail and discuss it so. | 00:48:58 | |
Up there, it may have been turned off. | 00:49:08 | |
I think I can speak loud enough without being Mike. | 00:49:16 | |
I think we probably have 80 or 90 people watching online tonight. | 00:49:20 | |
So I I think I speak for the local potent people that. | 00:49:28 | |
The the one with the rendering inside the. | 00:49:33 | |
Would be our preference because of the existing shade and you can use it for. | 00:49:38 | |
For Fall festival because there's no signs on. | 00:49:44 | |
It's not like bocce where you play. | 00:49:47 | |
The sides it's just flat, it's just. | 00:49:50 | |
So you could drive over it or? | 00:49:54 | |
Put something over there. | 00:49:58 | |
That would that would work. | 00:50:01 | |
Oh yeah, Actually we play on a parking lot. | 00:50:06 | |
And we have 4. | 00:50:11 | |
A gravel parking lot, Yeah. | 00:50:15 | |
Yep. And that's really, it's really, it's great. | 00:50:20 | |
A full of vagueness in *******. | 00:50:25 | |
That we there's so many people. | 00:50:31 | |
So is there a lead? Oh yeah, there's two town clubs in Athens right now. It's international. You actually have to join if you if | 00:50:34 | |
you go to one of these. | 00:50:40 | |
Clubs and you play for a certain amount of times, after which you are obligated to join the international potent club and I think | 00:50:47 | |
the dues. | 00:50:51 | |
$25 a year. | 00:50:57 | |
And in November, there's a big competition down at Amelia Island and they'll be coming from Canada, France. | 00:51:01 | |
All over Southeast, I think they're closer to three. | 00:51:10 | |
And workshops, so. | 00:51:15 | |
And then putting. So what they'll do is out of the tournament, like we'll go play them then. | 00:51:20 | |
Hopefully up here we had. | 00:51:26 | |
It's really a big reason. So that measurement that Laura Rose left. | 00:51:28 | |
You can layout 8 quarts right. | 00:51:33 | |
And there's no line, just pull strings what they do in these big terms. So they are so very used. I mean you can use them all the | 00:51:37 | |
time for anything for park really. | 00:51:42 | |
So you could do just a big gravel parking lot. | 00:51:48 | |
All of a sudden. | 00:51:51 | |
So really an overlap. | 00:51:54 | |
Fall festival is not really a problem. | 00:51:56 | |
The other thing I really want to mention was I mentioned after that the meeting. | 00:51:59 | |
We can put anymore shade out in the middle I think for that second all events like fall festival, everybody. | 00:52:03 | |
Under 3 so. | 00:52:12 | |
I think it's possible. I go down to the park every day with my dog and. | 00:52:14 | |
So I. | 00:52:19 | |
In the morning 90s there. | 00:52:20 | |
That. | 00:52:23 | |
I believe our current concern is the folks that are out there, there are a numerous amounts of dog owners that don't clean up | 00:52:27 | |
after their dogs and so like currently on the Little League field, make the Little League players play in dolphins. | 00:52:38 | |
And that's the concern. Well, now you'll have this fence separating the two. And there are people that dog owners who go out and | 00:52:49 | |
pick up other people's dog poop and that should not happen. I know that. But sometimes they get even down there, they get talking | 00:52:55 | |
and their dogs over here and they don't see it. | 00:53:02 | |
And. | 00:53:10 | |
Are you researching Fatah? | 00:53:12 | |
Yeah. | 00:53:18 | |
I love the addition of the the music pavilion. I think that's great and and I like the fact that from my I believe it's pointing | 00:53:21 | |
back towards Okat, is that correct? So that you would be bouncing the sound off of that versus if it was any other way be bouncing | 00:53:29 | |
off residential. And I forgot to mention an important part about that set up so the folks at school St. Studios. | 00:53:37 | |
Are you know and again this would be low five would not be loud. It's not you know it's more like what Mayor Dave's event. So this | 00:53:45 | |
folks at School St. Studios actually want to do a small series of you know concerts using local musicians and they've offered to | 00:53:51 | |
help put that together which I think would just be lovely in that space I do think. | 00:53:58 | |
You know, the good thing is the fences are removable. The outfield fence and the one in the middle. So look if nobody's using the | 00:54:04 | |
space on the right side. | 00:54:08 | |
And we want to turn dogs loose out there. That's fine. If a ton of people are throwing Frisbees and are actually activating that | 00:54:12 | |
space then. | 00:54:15 | |
We'll keep, we'll keep dogs out of there. So that's one thing that's flexible about this whole design is that if we find it wise | 00:54:18 | |
to open up that space, we don't have a permanent fence structure in there. We can use it or if there's a concert. | 00:54:24 | |
And we want to pick. | 00:54:30 | |
All the poop and just leave the one outfield fence. You know we can do that and everybody can gather around. So again that's in in | 00:54:32 | |
the building behind is designed in such a way that it. | 00:54:37 | |
Fingers crossed can hold all those that temporary fencing the concession, concession area. Yeah, so and the other problem with | 00:54:43 | |
this design is there's a lot of people from. | 00:54:48 | |
From the ung who park on this piece of. | 00:54:53 | |
Right. But we're going to, that's going to go away. I mean, I love that they might park there, but the reality is we've got a | 00:54:58 | |
patch of green space and yeah, and I'm going to turn it into something that's going to get used. | 00:55:03 | |
And I do like the net structure. Lawrence has built playgrounds for many years, as you know. | 00:55:09 | |
He built the one out here. | 00:55:16 | |
Called eight bridges. | 00:55:19 | |
Yep. | 00:55:23 | |
If it's inside the fence and your kid is playing. | 00:55:25 | |
Baseball you can sort of see. | 00:55:29 | |
From the from the stands and it's enclosed, I've seen about. | 00:55:34 | |
Well, they don't use that field. | 00:55:39 | |
Which field? | 00:55:42 | |
Rocket Field football. | 00:55:44 | |
In the last few years, hasn't been as busy because it's been busy. | 00:55:50 | |
I've been in that area 35 years and it's been busy. | 00:55:58 | |
I think the code. | 00:56:02 | |
Alright, sometimes you see your dad down there where this daughter. Well, if it rains, they can't use it for a few days. If you | 00:56:04 | |
get significant rain because the drainage is so bad, there's no outfield fence. So you can't play a game there. You can practice | 00:56:10 | |
there, but you can't have a you can't have a true game because you can't. There's no fence to stop the ball. The ball, you can't | 00:56:15 | |
hit a home run, right? You know, So none of that can happen. So that's one of the reasons why. | 00:56:20 | |
You know, so there's some practices there, there's T-ball, a little bit of stuff, but you know, the condition of the field. | 00:56:26 | |
Makes it where it's it's limiting the use. Yeah so, so Little League, we have a contract with Little League, at least with Little | 00:56:32 | |
League they maintain it. This would allow it would allow for more use of the field. But I think that's the idea is let's make it | 00:56:38 | |
into a place to be proud of and still allow all the uses so. | 00:56:43 | |
I'll have a look at that top later. You're talking about that triangle, Yeah. Yep. And see, because since. | 00:56:50 | |
It's a nice overlap with parking and if the school I guess owns near land, ends the school and starts. | 00:56:57 | |
Score OK if I think. | 00:57:04 | |
That's Watkins. Well, the parking lot is ours, but the parking lot where the school board is all that is the school boards. | 00:57:12 | |
So all that city property for Ung Parks now? Yep, yes. | 00:57:19 | |
So yeah, I'll see, because if that needed to be resurfaced or something to turn into a now, if it could be both, that would be | 00:57:23 | |
wonderful. But in in. | 00:57:27 | |
Well, if if we just gravel, gravel that then and that would work for you guys, then that could be a reason. I'd like to still put | 00:57:33 | |
some trees there. I think it'd be nice to have shade, you know? | 00:57:39 | |
It's essential you're talking about people in their 60s, seventies, 80s, we we can't get hot. | 00:57:46 | |
Kathleen, I know what you do all day, I know, but I'm acclimated and I have a lot of practice. | 00:57:53 | |
Well, it's not, it's not summer all year long. Let's remember that most of the year in Georgia, it's actually a decent climate. | 00:57:59 | |
So, but let's. OK, any other feedback from you guys because I want to get, I need to get. OK, yeah. | 00:58:04 | |
So there will be Patonk one way or another out there. And I'm going to be blunt with you guys. One of the things I told people | 00:58:10 | |
about is we're going to put it in because it's also cheap. If nobody's using it, we'll find something else to do for it. But if | 00:58:14 | |
you guys use it, like say you're going to use it, that's that's great, but you know. | 00:58:19 | |
But I'm like, it's a very low cost of investment. | 00:58:24 | |
You know, if it's going to be gravel or if it's going to be that you know, then OK. If if it's empty all the time, then you know | 00:58:27 | |
there's other things we can do with the space. So, all right, Thank you. | 00:58:31 | |
What's that? That's right, yeah. | 00:58:38 | |
I've already Well, we're going to work on that. OK, go ahead. Y'all feedback from council. This is actually just piggybacking on. | 00:58:41 | |
But, and it has nothing to Rockfield has to do with this park, so it's just real quick. | 00:58:49 | |
Something that maybe we think about is we've already talked about the current gravel space that is parking down there in the | 00:58:56 | |
master plan that is not going to be parking most of the time. That's going to be space that's used. | 00:59:03 | |
And then it can, it's going to be kind of closed off. | 00:59:11 | |
And then it can be opened up for parking for bigger events and so I'm wondering if that if that's already gravel and is eventually | 00:59:14 | |
not going to be. | 00:59:19 | |
If all the town courts need is like gravel and then it's overflow parking, that I'm not saying we shouldn't do. I'm not trying to | 00:59:25 | |
to mix it from this, but it it might just if you also have here that has the potential for 10 like something that's tournament | 00:59:31 | |
worthy. It's just something to think about to maybe have some here that people are you know a couple might be OK if you have | 00:59:37 | |
people. | 00:59:43 | |
You know the neighborhood people coming, like when I came and played with y'all? Well, some people are having their, you know, | 00:59:50 | |
like the normal community stuff. But maybe for tournaments we could figure out something down here. So that was. | 00:59:55 | |
Follow up question that do the gravel like little pea gravel or is it like #57 big gravel? I'm not just never itty bitty, almost | 01:00:02 | |
like sand like itty bitty. | 01:00:08 | |
Small ground, Yeah. I'm about to Google because I guess my idea is let's do something. If we're going to do it, I'd rather do | 01:00:14 | |
something that feels. | 01:00:18 | |
Relatively nice and for the sport, not feel like this is your gravel parking lot, You know so. | 01:00:22 | |
And we want them to play there, then walk down the street, go to chopping hops. That's when they're done. And instead, money. | 01:00:31 | |
With that area it looks like. Could that whole island in that picture be gravel, if you will. | 01:00:38 | |
With I just saw one picture in France that showed it looked like there's a playground. They're just all gravel to be stone benches | 01:00:44 | |
around. | 01:00:49 | |
And showed these people, you know, sitting there, I just realized you kind of toss the ball, you don't roll it like Pachi. And | 01:00:53 | |
that's why it doesn't have to be perfectly smooth like I was thinking in my mind. | 01:00:58 | |
And you don't, actually. | 01:01:04 | |
Like you don't want sand ball rolls too much, yeah. | 01:01:06 | |
But yeah, so my question is, could you? | 01:01:13 | |
That island not have to go see it to get a better feel myself like you mentioned, but could the whole island. | 01:01:17 | |
In essence, be gravel. | 01:01:23 | |
And create some neat stone benches around and possibly a tree someone there like they have around the edges to eventually have | 01:01:24 | |
shading and then you have string maybe to divide the courts. | 01:01:29 | |
Is. | 01:01:34 | |
Possible or acceptable? | 01:01:36 | |
Yeah, I think the you probably have to squeeze it in a little bit, but if. | 01:01:44 | |
I guess at the end of the day, conceptually, if we like this as a potential location, then Lawrence, I'd. I'd love to have you | 01:01:48 | |
guys come out there and look at it and let's talk about what it could look like, because I do kind of like the idea of giving you | 01:01:53 | |
a dedicated space because it's kind of like. | 01:01:57 | |
Watkinsville actually has. | 01:02:02 | |
Of a top court. It's just not a gravel square. But we're if we're going to do it, I'd come to rather lean into it. | 01:02:04 | |
You know, yeah. One something that look, it's. | 01:02:10 | |
Acceptable for professionals if you. | 01:02:13 | |
I'd like to do it. That will come here to play because it's a neat place to play. | 01:02:16 | |
Again, would be more than happy to meet you out there. | 01:02:23 | |
OK. | 01:02:26 | |
Right, let's. | 01:02:28 | |
So we've we've worked the baton pretty hard. Let's get through the rest of we can come back to it if we need to. But I'd like | 01:02:30 | |
y'all's feedback on the rest of these concepts because as you know we have a pretty fast timeline and once we land on a concept | 01:02:34 | |
that we. | 01:02:39 | |
We've got to get it rendered, we've got to get it result drawn, we've got to get it estimated, we've got to move into. | 01:02:43 | |
If you remember writing a, you know, kind of an MO you situation with our partner and then we want to be adopting that in October. | 01:02:49 | |
Or September so we can move. | 01:02:56 | |
Move into construction as soon as possible after the fall festival and hopefully have something open again. I've learned the hard | 01:02:58 | |
way nothing gets done as fast as I want to, so I'm going to say summer, but you know anyway. | 01:03:04 | |
Other feedback on the plans, what you like, what you don't. | 01:03:10 | |
I think it's great and I I love the changes after the public feedback. The having it be more of a stage instead of a gazebo with | 01:03:14 | |
the covering in that corner I think is brilliant and I I this picture here that is up. I think the I do think the baton courts | 01:03:21 | |
need to be separate. I think just the play structure. | 01:03:27 | |
Over there And then the Open. I mean, I think it's great. Yeah. I don't like the play structure right beside the baton courts | 01:03:35 | |
because if you're trying to play Patonk, you don't want a bunch of three-year olds running around to you, possibly running and | 01:03:41 | |
grabbing your ball thing. It's it's funny. | 01:03:46 | |
Play in the morning. | 01:03:52 | |
Or Early afterno. | 01:03:54 | |
Not when kids typically are. | 01:03:56 | |
Yeah, I was just. | 01:03:59 | |
Separate. | 01:04:01 | |
Yeah, I'm with you. I would prefer to leave the field a field. | 01:04:04 | |
And let's build. | 01:04:09 | |
Courts up on the Hill if. | 01:04:12 | |
Poss. | 01:04:15 | |
But I love it. I think a good sustain. Is that right there? | 01:04:16 | |
I think that will I reminisce the days that we spent over at. | 01:04:21 | |
Umm. | 01:04:27 | |
Ashford House, Yeah, doing concert. It was amazing. I love the summer days, being able to do concerts there. | 01:04:30 | |
Greatest thing? | 01:04:37 | |
The one thing I will mention since I forgot to include the close up, we did expand the concession stand and scoring building. | 01:04:40 | |
I think we'll be able to. | 01:04:48 | |
Most of the temporary fence in there now you probably couldn't have a concession stand in the fence stored at the same time. So | 01:04:50 | |
anyway we may have to work out the the storage situation, but and they did adjust that to being kind of brick on the bottom to | 01:04:55 | |
match the OCAT buildings with siding on top. So it's kind of a mixed structure. | 01:05:00 | |
You know, kind of white. Anyway, it's going to be designed to match Rocket Hall and to match the older Ocas buildings to look in | 01:05:06 | |
the field. That was some feedback that we got to from the public. | 01:05:11 | |
And then the other thing that we did, it doesn't show on here. | 01:05:18 | |
One suggestion, Sharon, if you could go to the one that's the direct overhead. | 01:05:21 | |
Yeah, that's either one of those. Last two is fine. We added in. I suggested maybe adding in some of those exercise stations in | 01:05:25 | |
between the sidewalk and the trees if we can do it with grading. And so that way if someone is just they're watching their child | 01:05:30 | |
or they just want to go for a walk and they could actually do some other kind of movement driven things and like a lot of European | 01:05:35 | |
towns. | 01:05:41 | |
So anyway, so if we can, we want to see if we can afford that. But I thought that was kind of a interesting idea as well. And then | 01:05:47 | |
we removed the bleachers from the plan. | 01:05:51 | |
East side, and again that that'll be a space where the existing tree canopy will allow you just to use your use your camp chairs | 01:05:56 | |
or other kind of chairs to sit there. | 01:06:01 | |
So those were just some minor changes that were that were also. | 01:06:06 | |
I'm not sold on the scoreboard location. I'm not sure if that's the right place there. So yeah, what to think about that? | 01:06:10 | |
An upload for that to be something old school if we do it, you know, maybe something that looks historic and it just looks big. | 01:06:17 | |
Anything I think on the outfield is going to look strange. | 01:06:23 | |
Of the flow, I mean because if sometimes we take that the field fence away to do something, it's going to just feel strange. So I | 01:06:28 | |
mean can you do it closer up to the concessions That might be a cool idea to put something closer. | 01:06:35 | |
Perpendicular to where it is and put it in center field up against the. Looks like a light bulb or something that's right there. | 01:06:43 | |
That way it's directly in front of the move it all the way outside the envelope, and then it's where the scorekeepers can see it, | 01:06:50 | |
and the people in the stands can see it well as well. | 01:06:58 | |
Change its orientation and put it in front of that light. | 01:07:05 | |
No. Well, on the other side either side, yeah, that's good. So we'll look at locations for that. | 01:07:10 | |
All right, keep going, Council. I haven't heard from the neighbor yet, and I need to hear from Connie. So. | 01:07:19 | |
Well, I again think we need to attempt to find. | 01:07:30 | |
Other than Rocket Field for a dog park. | 01:07:35 | |
Hopefully there's some place in town we can find another place for dogs. | 01:07:39 | |
Again, I'm concerned. | 01:07:43 | |
That somebody is going to get out there and slip and fall. | 01:07:45 | |
On not being clean. | 01:07:49 | |
Piles and get hurt right when they were working on the ball, the dog field. | 01:07:52 | |
Veterans Park and all those people just showed up without even asking. | 01:07:58 | |
If they could bring their dogs to Rocket Field. When I walked up, just as I was grabbing hold of the fence and was going to say | 01:08:02 | |
something, somebody. | 01:08:06 | |
I stepped in a pile and if I hadn't been hanging on to that fence I would have fallen. So that concerned me. Well, we're going to, | 01:08:10 | |
we are going to. This does not show it, but Sharon, if you can draw a line from the left side of. | 01:08:16 | |
Of that pavilion, to the center of the fence. The other pavilion, Yeah, that that fence will still be there. So, Connie, it will | 01:08:23 | |
be. | 01:08:27 | |
We will have a dedicated space for just dogs, so dogs will not. | 01:08:31 | |
Where And there's not going to be a gate for them to go through to get into the rest of the facility. | 01:08:36 | |
And and we will, I mean we're going to enforce it, You know and we made that clear to the dog folks when they were here. And the | 01:08:41 | |
dog folks I think we're pretty satisfied with the space. I mean I don't think they expect to have the whole. | 01:08:46 | |
I'll. | 01:08:52 | |
There's going to be space for dogs, but the days of the dogs and the ball feed the ball. | 01:08:53 | |
And. | 01:08:58 | |
They're going to need to end and if we have. | 01:09:00 | |
If we have to get the PD cruising through there a little more regularly to make sure that it's going to happen, I'm just guessing. | 01:09:03 | |
I mean that's. | 01:09:06 | |
That's probably 150 feet. | 01:09:10 | |
A good, I mean good, 150 feet run from the shady spot to the corner over here. Where the? | 01:09:13 | |
This page is. It's more than that. It's 200 to 2:25 I think. | 01:09:20 | |
The people who somebody that I asked about, he said that even the space that we had for the patent courts, he said that's bigger | 01:09:27 | |
than a lot of dog parks that they that they. | 01:09:31 | |
Like apartment communities and places like that. So even that space but we don't put the dogs over there. Thought it might be | 01:09:36 | |
better for but don't. | 01:09:39 | |
Is that the stage big enough? | 01:09:44 | |
I don't know if you had a band that. | 01:09:46 | |
The stage was designed to the specs for from. | 01:09:50 | |
School St. Stadium. | 01:09:53 | |
Does it happen happen in? | 01:09:55 | |
I knew I was getting it wrong anyway. | 01:09:57 | |
The Huffman studio, they gave us some specs. Now what they want us to do, they do want to add go ahead and include some risers for | 01:10:00 | |
and have it wired appropriately to for performances, so. | 01:10:05 | |
So they gave us specs in the patent. Folks gave us specs. So we got specs from. | 01:10:11 | |
Two very dedicated, dedicated. | 01:10:16 | |
Upcoming. I just want to make sure that if we did have a five piece or seven piece band that it could fit up there. | 01:10:20 | |
I think it's 20 by 25 maybe. | 01:10:27 | |
And while we're building it, we have to feed the feedback forms, make it to you guys. Sharon, do you ever if they're in your | 01:10:32 | |
packet or Kathleen got it? | 01:10:36 | |
Kathleen, can you flip? I hate to ask you to do this. | 01:10:41 | |
There's some specs on the There's a sketch. | 01:10:45 | |
And you know, I'm sorry to be making the sausage at the meeting, but I feel like we need to get through this tonight so we can | 01:10:54 | |
move forward with clarity on. | 01:10:57 | |
How to get this? | 01:11:00 | |
16 by 20. | 01:11:06 | |
Steps on two sides. It's not shown exactly like that, but generally I think that's. | 01:11:09 | |
That's the idea. So we would probably add steps off the point off the left side, as the plan shows, also so the dog park people | 01:11:13 | |
could access it. | 01:11:17 | |
But the dogs, there need to be a gate scenario there so the dogs can't get up. | 01:11:22 | |
Run through to the other side. So or we could just put a shade structure off of that side and rearrange it. | 01:11:26 | |
OK, we've heard from everybody but Councilman Garrett. | 01:11:32 | |
Councilman Garrett, do you have any thoughts for us? | 01:11:36 | |
All right, well then as a conceptual then what I'd like, y'alls I'd like. | 01:11:45 | |
I guess a motion from you guys. | 01:11:50 | |
To refine, refine the plan and begin working towards. | 01:11:56 | |
Refine the plan and begin working towards. | 01:12:01 | |
An MO U with our partner. | 01:12:04 | |
Would be the appropriate motion that would give Sharon and I the ability to refine the plan. I'll certainly keep you all in the | 01:12:07 | |
loop the whole way. Lawrence will meet with you guys and talk about. | 01:12:12 | |
The how the island could work for a patunk area work on refining. | 01:12:18 | |
I'll stay in touch with you guys every e-mail, but I'd love a motion that allows. | 01:12:23 | |
Work, move forward on the concepts and then. | 01:12:27 | |
Begin preparing the legal documents. We need to get this going potentially in October, but nothing will start without y'all | 01:12:31 | |
looking at it. All Council looking at it will come back before you again. | 01:12:35 | |
So I make a motion that we accept the concept and continue to move things forward. | 01:12:42 | |
All right. Can I have a second? | 01:12:48 | |
All right. All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? | 01:12:51 | |
OK, so we have passes 4/1. | 01:12:55 | |
All right. | 01:12:58 | |
New business We're back to the zoning map. | 01:13:01 | |
2. | 01:13:06 | |
All right. Sharon, is there anything? | 01:13:11 | |
You need to cover on this or did you give the update before? | 01:13:16 | |
Just just a reminder, just a reminder that this just simply puts on a map what you've already put in on paper. | 01:13:21 | |
And this is just a visual for all of us to have so that the zoning is updated. | 01:13:27 | |
Graphically, pictorially for us, and it has to be official and it hasn't been official for what, 13 years? We're going to do my | 01:13:33 | |
math here, 13 years since 2009. So it's been official. You've been hand marking the changes, which is perfectly legal and | 01:13:40 | |
permissible, but for the sake of the public and to have accessibility online and updated map is very important piece of | 01:13:47 | |
housekeeping. I don't see Watkinsville Woods. | 01:13:53 | |
Watkins, so you have to keep in mind, I think you all need to remember zoning, yeah, zoning and use are two different things. | 01:14:03 | |
Zoning exact It's zoned a certain way but it's being and it's it can be used as a park. So yeah and I actually, I went through | 01:14:12 | |
this conversation with Mark our city engineer about because I was like what you know why is that that and. | 01:14:19 | |
You gotta remember we've got zoning and then you've got the use of that and so you've got a park and it does in a detached | 01:14:26 | |
residential area. That's fine. | 01:14:30 | |
But we could always reset it. | 01:14:34 | |
Yeah, absolutely. To Park Recreation, My only other question on the Sharon, did we get the hatchery right or did we miss the | 01:14:37 | |
hatchery, the hatchery? | 01:14:41 | |
Is there some kind of variance that allows detached residential to cover the? | 01:14:44 | |
Or did we forget to catch that one? | 01:14:48 | |
Because it's it's not president, I don't think. I think we changed the zoning on the hatchery, so just. | 01:14:51 | |
I mean, Julie and I, we spent several months looking. I don't think, I mean I don't know what we would have missed that Julie. | 01:14:58 | |
Didn't we change the zoning on it? | 01:15:02 | |
Because we had to annex it. Wasn't there some. | 01:15:07 | |
Because that wouldn't be. It's not used as attached residential, it's a legal use and it would not be a legal use and detached | 01:15:11 | |
residential. So if we do, if you do a special. | 01:15:16 | |
For. | 01:15:23 | |
I feel like we approved it for mixed-use office, but I could be. | 01:15:25 | |
We'll have to check on. I mean just thinking about the. | 01:15:31 | |
The soda works. That's in there. | 01:15:35 | |
Well, there's, I mean. | 01:15:40 | |
That there are any homes and well, yeah, there's homes and around the rest of it, I'm sorry, in that there's two businesses. | 01:15:42 | |
Yeah. | 01:15:51 | |
And it's not like a business that they live there too. I mean, they're just pure businesses. So would you prefer knowing that's | 01:15:53 | |
one outlier, Would you prefer for us to approve this tonight and do what we did before and advertise again or do you want to table | 01:15:56 | |
it? | 01:16:00 | |
And bring it back? Or do we have to advertise it all over again once it's tabled? How does that work? | 01:16:05 | |
Well, I mean, I I guess I I defer to the attorney, but I mean I would like to go ahead and approve it and let's get it set and | 01:16:10 | |
then we can, if we need to at the next meeting, we find out between now and the next meeting. | 01:16:15 | |
That's something. Then we can amend it. I don't mind advertising it again, but I'd like to get that set too. | 01:16:21 | |
OK. I mean, I don't mind. Let's just check on that one. | 01:16:28 | |
Where we're fixing to. | 01:16:36 | |
There, no, it's mixed. If there is, you may work, you may remember that. | 01:16:39 | |
There was those lots on Water St. except for the one that was kept mixed-use and we did the best we could because we don't have it | 01:16:47 | |
that hasn't been subdivided yet. So we're doing the best we can to. | 01:16:52 | |
Worked with the planners at Northeast Georgia Regional Commission to do that. You'll see that little orange, that little piece is | 01:16:57 | |
the part that did not get pulled into the development and the rest of it is Arkansas and that that's what was zoned for even | 01:17:03 | |
though, OK, it's attached residential departments. | 01:17:08 | |
All right, so we're going to prove this. You'll check on the hatchery, and we'll see if we need to do something else, or anything | 01:17:16 | |
else. Council, if you'll notice other things. And please just reach out to Sharon, but I'll entertain a motion to approve. | 01:17:21 | |
The updated zoning map. | 01:17:26 | |
I make a motion to approve the updated semi map. All right, do we have a second? | 01:17:30 | |
All right. Any discussion? | 01:17:35 | |
All in favor, Say aye. | 01:17:37 | |
Everything. | 01:17:40 | |
All right, we will move on to new business. Approve an appropriate 20,000 from spots 3 for new entryway signage, long-awaited | 01:17:45 | |
signage and entryway stuff. Sharon, why don't you brief us on that? | 01:17:50 | |
Thank you, Mayor. | 01:17:58 | |
So I can't share with you the branding yet, but I can tell you that we did go ahead and get some estimates on this. So part of | 01:18:01 | |
your your response monies that you had. | 01:18:06 | |
It might hurt her to come back on it. Dedicated have been set aside for coming up with a brand because you can't have a sign. If | 01:18:12 | |
you want a new size, you need a branding. That was the direction we went, so the branding effort has finished. Next Tuesday night | 01:18:18 | |
it will be there will be a reveal on a launch of the brand. | 01:18:24 | |
The first important thing that we talked about doing was signage. The the entryway signage. There are 4 entryway signs currently | 01:18:31 | |
in place on North Main, South Main Hwy. 15, Greensboro Highway, and Experiment Station Rd. | 01:18:38 | |
There are four other entrances do not presently have signs, but for which we all felt like you needed to have a sign. I've got a | 01:18:46 | |
map just to depict that. So you see that every entrance into Watkins will have a sign. | 01:18:52 | |
Location specific. Other than the four that are out there, they're going to replace an exact same location they're in. The other | 01:18:58 | |
four will have to determine. | 01:19:02 | |
And we'll need to make sure you know I'll, I'll work with the mayor make sure he's aware of what we're thinking and and clear | 01:19:06 | |
that. But we don't have those locations exactly on the map yet, but close to where the where the city limits are. So do we | 01:19:14 | |
anticipate having to purchase right away or anything for that? No, no, we will we get to those other four will. | 01:19:21 | |
Look at where what we might have as far as you know, county facilities or city facilities and if need be we can come up with, you | 01:19:29 | |
know, we come back to Y'all with a you know, lease arrangement or something with somebody. | 01:19:34 | |
The, yeah, the ones that are on the the four that are out there now are as far as we're concerned their grandfather in and we're | 01:19:40 | |
going to handle them that way so. | 01:19:44 | |
So we'll worry about the other form. We get to them, the. | 01:19:50 | |
The other piece of this are some wayfinding signs, specifically one here at the corner of VFW and Experiment Station Road for the | 01:19:54 | |
police, the ESP. For the playground, ESP. City Hall. | 01:20:00 | |
Not sure how we'll handle the hair Shoals, but it'll be there'll be something, so we'll figure that out. I'm not sure with all the | 01:20:08 | |
changes that may be happening on the Experiment Station Road there may not. | 01:20:12 | |
We'll we'll deal with that sign separately anyway, but we'll we'll direct people from that angle too. The three locations along | 01:20:18 | |
Main Street have not been determined, but we do anticipate we'll need three. We'll figure that out as well. Work with the mayor to | 01:20:23 | |
make sure he's aware of where those go and they'll be double sided as well. | 01:20:28 | |
We did get an estimate. It's actually this estimates about 200 something dollars higher because they had a tax and we don't pay | 01:20:35 | |
tax, so but we're asking for 20,000. We've estimated that the 8 entryway for wayfinding signs will cost a little bit more than | 01:20:40 | |
$19,800 or $19,600. | 01:20:46 | |
Production is four to six weeks. | 01:20:53 | |
If we get approval tonight, then it's possible, barring any supply issues, that we might be able to at least get the four main, | 01:20:56 | |
you know, the the four replacement signs up. | 01:21:01 | |
And we'll work with the, you know, with the mayor to, you know, make sure he's good with the look of it and of course share it | 01:21:06 | |
with y'all as well, so. | 01:21:10 | |
So we're asking for it for you to go ahead and approve an appropriate $20,000 for these signs. | 01:21:14 | |
And then direct us to move forward with getting them up. | 01:21:19 | |
All right, questions for the manager. | 01:21:23 | |
I just want to read and I want to be clear the $20,000 will talk to all eight of the signage entryway signage and four wayfinding | 01:21:26 | |
signage as well that that is that is the quote we have to we we've got out state we've got two out we've got one outstanding quote | 01:21:32 | |
that has not been in but. | 01:21:39 | |
This is a really good quote. I don't have pictures up online, but these are examples of some of the signs they've done, so they'll | 01:21:46 | |
be similar to that same material. It's called a high density urethane. | 01:21:51 | |
And it works well in the weather. It's I think this is similar to the design we talked about except for the brick around. It's | 01:21:57 | |
going to be more just a wood structure with some hardware holding the sign. | 01:22:03 | |
So, but we'll work on that and we'll also work on landscaping and all that we get those in. | 01:22:10 | |
I think it's wonderful and I am impressed at how quickly this has come together because as Brian said earlier, sometimes it takes | 01:22:19 | |
longer than we hope and this looks like. | 01:22:24 | |
Knock on this. | 01:22:30 | |
This will happen, so I'm I'm already to make a motion. | 01:22:33 | |
I would say it might be worth looking. The one on old Bishop Rd. was kind of fine where it was. Now there's there's two driveways | 01:22:37 | |
there. I don't know if it's worth looking at potentially moving that slightly. The one on 441. | 01:22:44 | |
There's three houses that are going in there. We've told the people that are building there, that's where we parked our spot, but | 01:22:52 | |
we'll we'll look at that one before we make a final decision. | 01:22:57 | |
Yeah. | 01:23:02 | |
And then next Tuesday we'll share preliminary renderings and introduce all the city logo stuff and stuff like that at City Hall, | 01:23:03 | |
so. | 01:23:07 | |
530 here. | 01:23:12 | |
Tuesday. Yep. Yep. OK All right. We have. Do we have a motion? You made a motion to approve. All right. To appropriate the 20,000 | 01:23:15 | |
from spots three. Do we have a second? | 01:23:20 | |
All right. We have a motion. We have a second. Any further discussion? | 01:23:26 | |
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? | 01:23:31 | |
Motion carries. | 01:23:35 | |
All right. Next item is adoption of a request to the state legislature for a local act to create the City of Watkinsville Public | 01:23:37 | |
Facilities Authority. Attorney Reitman and manager Dickerson, if you guys could update council on this and then we will. | 01:23:44 | |
We will discuss. | 01:23:52 | |
Yeah. Yeah. I'll, I'll start just to give you a little background and then I'll let the attorney step in. So the city has recently | 01:23:54 | |
engaged a registered municipal advisor to assist us with financial services. We're continuing to grow. | 01:24:00 | |
It will give us the ability to another funding mechanism. It will help us obtain longer, we can get enter into longer term lease | 01:24:40 | |
agreements, issue and sell revenue bonds, obtained favorable financing for public facilities, land building equipment, Rd. | 01:24:47 | |
sidewalks and services. So it's just it's just another tool that we need as we're as we're growing and and maturing. It's | 01:24:55 | |
something that I think is really worthwhile. We will be meeting with our financial services advisor later this week. | 01:25:02 | |
To start that process of getting them the information they need so that we can start. | 01:25:10 | |
Moving in, moving towards this, but in the meantime, in order to do this, state law requires that you ask get your state | 01:25:14 | |
delegation to bring forward a local act. And I'm going to turn that over to the attorney and let him handle that piece of it. And | 01:25:21 | |
this is the normal legislative process of a resolution be passed unanimously at this level. Then it would go to the state | 01:25:28 | |
legislators. You've seen sample legislation that is attached as an exhibit to the resolution that Sharon and I have worked on. | 01:25:36 | |
It may differ slightly from that. | 01:25:44 | |
Done a little bit of research on this and the synopsis of it, and I noted as I did my preliminary research that a number of cities | 01:25:46 | |
use this mechanism, not the city's local governments counties as well. It's become a very popular mechanism. As you said, kind of | 01:25:54 | |
leverage the resources of a city or county as the case may be to open up more options to give you more tools in the toolbox for | 01:26:01 | |
things such as recreational facilities, public safety facilities. | 01:26:09 | |
Educational slash, cultural slash historical facilities, transportation facilities administrative facilities. So it runs the | 01:26:17 | |
gamut. It really does again give you another option and financing opportunities typically low rate, low interest rate financing | 01:26:24 | |
through revenue bond issue. And I I don't see a downside to it as I've done my preliminary research and we'll delve a little | 01:26:32 | |
deeper into it. But what is proposed is documentation that what city was that now what Milton was it. | 01:26:40 | |
All right. So what you see is that again, we're not reinventing the wheel. We're not a Guinea pig where we're going following the | 01:26:47 | |
the groundwork laid by numerous other cities and counties before us. And and certainly I think you'll be beneficial to the city, | 01:26:54 | |
particularly with the recommendation of the financial advisor of the benefits thereof. You all have any questions? | 01:27:01 | |
Prior notification before a bond issue. | 01:27:44 | |
Public Superior Court process. If there's ever a bond issue, it's a revenue bond, which means income. Let's say that the authority | 01:27:47 | |
creates a whatever facility, whether it's a Police Department, a cultural historical facility, and then leases to the city. Stream | 01:27:55 | |
of income pays the bond as opposed to the full faith and credit of the city. The city will not be incurring debt. | 01:28:04 | |
The authority would incur debt, but it would be based on a revenue bond with a proposed income stream and that is I think an | 01:28:12 | |
important consideration here just for fiscal responsibility. It's a, it's kind of a conservative approach to obtaining funds and | 01:28:18 | |
providing a higher level of city services. | 01:28:24 | |
All right. Questions from council. | 01:28:36 | |
And again this. | 01:28:39 | |
Again, has to be, has to go through the state legislature, then we would have to appoint the body or it would be us. | 01:28:41 | |
It would all be done in public. There are no plans to activate or do anything with this in short order. It's against. | 01:28:47 | |
The idea of giving us some more capability should we have an opportunity to use them and the ability to move quickly on | 01:28:54 | |
opportunities. | 01:28:57 | |
Questions for council or the manager? | 01:29:01 | |
All right. There's no questions. I'll entertain a motion. | 01:29:05 | |
Make a motion to approve a resolution to request the state budget plate legislature for a local act to create the City of | 01:29:08 | |
Watkinsville Public Facilities Authority. | 01:29:13 | |
That's a mouthful. Can I have a second? Second, we have a second? Any discussion. | 01:29:18 | |
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? | 01:29:24 | |
All right. Thank you both. We are now up to public comments. | 01:30:02 | |
This is the broad public comment, same procedures as previous. | 01:30:07 | |
It's OK. Lawrence or Kathleen, anything you want to share? | 01:30:11 | |
Thank you, Julie. We got anything from the publisher online? All right, no, nothing online. Then we will close the public | 01:30:17 | |
comments. | 01:30:22 | |
Mayor's report. | 01:30:26 | |
Couple quick updates. | 01:30:29 | |
Since this Saturday at Wire Park. | 01:30:32 | |
And I doubt there's any other town of a few thousand people in Georgia have had the Braves World Series Championship trophy visit | 01:30:35 | |
twice, but Watkinsville does, so we're glad to have it back. It was here previously for the opening of the Miracle League Field. | 01:30:42 | |
With a little bit more of a smaller audience, So 10:00 AM to 2:00 PM at Wire Park and it's going to be more than the trophy. | 01:30:49 | |
Sharon, do we have one more slide? Yeah. So they're going to have several of their businesses that have yet to open, are going to | 01:30:54 | |
have space. There's going to be about tables and booths. | 01:30:59 | |
There's going to be a bounce house. | 01:31:04 | |
So it's going to scoops is going to have an ice cream truck, there's going to be Gelato food truck. I think the weather is | 01:31:06 | |
actually supposed to be kind of cool on Saturday. | 01:31:10 | |
So it's going to be, I think it's going to be a really nice day. | 01:31:14 | |
For Wire Park. So this Saturday Braves trophy coming to Wire Park. | 01:31:20 | |
As we mentioned earlier, these are some of our current logos. | 01:31:27 | |
You can see why we need. | 01:31:32 | |
And went through a branding exercise. | 01:31:35 | |
We're excited to reveal that Tuesday night here at City Hall at 5:00. | 01:31:37 | |
So that will that will be then and then we'll share information with the public after that meeting. | 01:31:42 | |
Somebody has a birthday coming up, is that right? Or had a birthday? I'm sorry last week. Chuck, we happy birthday to you. | 01:31:48 | |
Appreciate the. | 01:31:52 | |
Another great trip around the sun for you, so couple other little things. Does anybody notice anything different about this room | 01:31:57 | |
from last month? | 01:32:01 | |
There's windows in the doors back here. | 01:32:13 | |
So we have new front doors and then here off the back what normally was a little wall, we actually have some sunlight that comes | 01:32:17 | |
in now so you can see out to the park. | 01:32:21 | |
We'd hope to make those a little bit bigger, but then we realized if we made them bigger, it would be a security issue. People | 01:32:27 | |
could reach in and open those doors in reverse. So, but we did get a little more natural light in here, and I love natural light, | 01:32:31 | |
so I'm excited about that. | 01:32:35 | |
And then lastly, I had the opportunity to visit South Main Brewing and get a tour last week. They were installing their tanks. | 01:32:40 | |
They're making some great progress there. I think they're hoping to open up in September. | 01:32:45 | |
But if you see those guys around town, those the team that's doing that, they're making quite an investment in Watkinsville. | 01:32:53 | |
So if. | 01:33:00 | |
You know, if you. | 01:33:02 | |
Feel the spirit, give them a pat on the back and tell them, tell them thanks because it is a big, it's a big lift and it's | 01:33:04 | |
exciting to have some local guys doing that. So, so anyway, more to come in September from them hopefully. So that's all I have. | 01:33:09 | |
Oh, we were going to have an election, but it looks like we're not going to have an election in Watkins. We'll still have people | 01:33:13 | |
here. | 01:33:18 | |
But congratulations to Mayor Pro Tem Tucker, Councilman Campbell, Councilman Thomas. | 01:33:24 | |
Who will not have any competition for their upcoming election? And I think that's quite an endorsement of the jobs you guys are | 01:33:30 | |
doing. So congratulations and thank you. | 01:33:35 | |
With that, we'll move on to council, reports Councilman Garrett. | 01:33:41 | |
Councilwoman Massey. | 01:33:47 | |
Councilman Thomas, I have nothing. | 01:33:49 | |
Councilwoman Tucker, we are moving forward with getting the DBA. | 01:33:52 | |
Activated and. | 01:34:01 | |
Starting the hunt for a director? Well, OK, great. That was budgeted and that position is supposed to start around December, | 01:34:04 | |
right? | 01:34:09 | |
So Downtown Development Authority. So just to just to clarify, she's getting really excited. I'm excited. | 01:34:15 | |
I'm going to, I'm going to pull her back just a little bit. So the council has to approve a job description which will be part of | 01:34:22 | |
the paying compensation study that will come before you guys hopefully in September or October and then once we have that job and | 01:34:28 | |
y'all then we'll be able to advertise for that. But yeah, January is when we're we're planning for that we'll we'll get there. | 01:34:33 | |
All right, great. Great update, Councilman Campbell. | 01:34:41 | |
Following those lines, I'll be going Monday to make in for the training for the DEA. | 01:34:46 | |
No. | 01:34:52 | |
Class all day, training. So then we'll start meeting more regularly. | 01:34:53 | |
Move forward. | 01:34:59 | |
Perfect. All right. I realized I skipped over something that we added on the agenda and that's the Girma. | 01:35:01 | |
Item sharing. | 01:35:07 | |
And I don't. Do you have a briefing on that? | 01:35:12 | |
Mayor Garment is our property and liability insurance company. Y'all may recall that we get a, we get a rebate essentially of our | 01:35:17 | |
premiums up to $6000 in grant money for safety items. And So what we've what we put together the this year it snuck up on as well | 01:35:26 | |
actually change the date last year it was a little bit later but now it's due, I think it's due ASAP basically. | 01:35:34 | |
No later than I think the early part of September. So our plan is to go ahead and get to get you guys to approve this bucket list. | 01:35:43 | |
We're only going to be able to get $6000 or so. We put quite a few different items in there because they get to pick what what we | 01:35:49 | |
get or what, what we're going to be able to what they're going to award to us. But the intention is to enhance what we have as far | 01:35:56 | |
as our public, our public vehicles, our police vehicles, our public works vehicles, don't have any emergency roadside assistance | 01:36:02 | |
type things. | 01:36:08 | |
Our police officers really can't jump off a car because it will fry the the systems that are in there, so we're looking at getting | 01:36:14 | |
some some jacks. | 01:36:17 | |
Pack. | 01:36:22 | |
Some warning triangles, things that will obviously enhance the safety of our not just our employees, but are the citizens here. So | 01:36:23 | |
Chief, do you have anything you want to add about what we're asking for in the in the safety grant? | 01:36:29 | |
We put in some more barricades. I mean we may get some more of those, but we've got a lot of those now they're they're they're | 01:36:38 | |
plastic and just easily movable And so citizens like at the fall festival can move them versus the the wooden metal ones that are | 01:36:45 | |
challenging to say the least. So but we'll see what they come back. We'll submit it in September, early part of September. | 01:36:51 | |
All right, council, that's the recommendation of police chief and the manager is that we approve. | 01:37:00 | |
I'm happy to entertain a motion to that effect or a. | 01:37:07 | |
Council to find option. | 01:37:10 | |
I'll make a motion that we approve this middle of the Girma and, Jim, a safety grant application. All right. Do we have a second? | 01:37:13 | |
Any discussion? | 01:37:17 | |
All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? | 01:37:21 | |
I don't think we have any need for an executive session tonight. Is that accurate? | 01:37:24 | |
OK, No. OK. Unless anybody wants an executive session, then I'm going to ask for a motion to adjourn. I make a motion to adjourn. | 01:37:28 | |
Do we have a second second? All in favor, say aye. | 01:37:36 | |
We always have an exact like the last month we've been able to like. | 01:37:47 |
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All right. Welcome everybody to the. | 00:00:04 | |
August City Council meeting. | 00:00:07 | |
Appreciate. Appreciate everybody who's here with us and who's watching online. We do have a quorum here. | 00:00:10 | |
Tonight. Thanks. Looks like we have perfect attendance. Thanks everybody for being here. And with that, we will kick off with the | 00:00:16 | |
Pledge of Allegiance. Officer Rachel Stearns. If you could lead us in the pledge, that would be great. | 00:00:21 | |
I. | 00:00:26 | |
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, | 00:00:33 | |
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:39 | |
Thank you. | 00:00:47 | |
All right, Council, you have had the packet for several days at this point at this point. | 00:00:55 | |
And ask for approval of the minutes from the July 20th, July 20th meeting if you have. | 00:01:00 | |
Unless there are any edits to those meetings. | 00:01:07 | |
I make a motion to approve the Minutes. | 00:01:10 | |
We have a motion. Do we have a second? | 00:01:13 | |
We have a motion and a second assuming there's no discussion, all in favor of approving the minute say aye. Any opposed? | 00:01:16 | |
All right. We have 40. Thank you. I always wonder why people vote to approve the minutes of a meeting they don't attend. So, | 00:01:24 | |
Councilman Thomas, thank you for abstaining there. | 00:01:28 | |
The Just a couple quick housekeeping reminders that I forgot to do at the start. This meeting is being broadcast online. That | 00:01:33 | |
said, it's not interactive, so if you have a comment or something that you wish to make, please try to do that in advance. The | 00:01:40 | |
packet is posted in advance online, so any citizen, yes, or anyone else who wants to review that online has access to that. | 00:01:47 | |
We are a little less formal here in Watkinsville than other municipalities, so if anyone does have a comment that they wish to | 00:01:55 | |
make on a matter that before the council, that's at council, Mayor and legal counsel's discretion. There are certain parts were | 00:02:01 | |
required to accept feedback, but if you have something that you want to discuss with council, please raise your hand, indicate | 00:02:07 | |
that and if council sees fit, we will let you comment on it. Of course, no arguing. | 00:02:13 | |
Debate with Council and if you make comments to council, they need to be towards Council, not towards the audience as it is | 00:02:20 | |
tonight. | 00:02:24 | |
Approval of the agenda. We do have two items to add to the agenda tonight under public hearing. We want to add Item 6A council | 00:02:29 | |
vote on amendments to the subdivision ordinance. | 00:02:34 | |
And then under new business, we want to add item eleven approval, approve submittal of Girma and GMA safety grant application | 00:02:38 | |
Manager. Dickerson will walk us through both of those and what we need to do. But if you are comfortable making those additions to | 00:02:44 | |
the agenda, then I'll take a motion to that effect. | 00:02:49 | |
I would like to ask that we table I have not had a full. | 00:02:57 | |
Chance to dig a deep dive into the amendments of the subdivision ordinance. I don't know if everybody else. | 00:03:02 | |
Did but I'd like to table that till next. I looked through it today and it is red line which I greatly appreciate and. | 00:03:09 | |
It's pretty. There's also that summary page. Yeah. Of it it's. I mean it's it's things like taking instead of faxing, emailing | 00:03:18 | |
digital copies and then taking County out where it's not. I mean, yeah, so I I read through all the highlighted red stuff today, | 00:03:26 | |
all 87 pages of that. But in reading such I I I dove down into a few more things and you. | 00:03:33 | |
Things in there that I would like to discuss further as a Council. | 00:03:42 | |
That probably ought to be relooked at. So what? | 00:03:46 | |
We. | 00:03:50 | |
Have the hearing, but hold the vote. Have the hearing or I mean. | 00:03:52 | |
To me, reading through it, there were things that were long overdue and just getting cleaned up. So what if we? | 00:03:57 | |
Consider still consider it tonight. | 00:04:04 | |
But maybe we need to add later to look more in depth. | 00:04:06 | |
The actual like let's do this, let's let's approve the agenda, let's keep that on and then let's have this discussion. When we get | 00:04:12 | |
to the agenda item, we can always decide the table and we get to the agenda item. For now, let's if if we can add those two items | 00:04:18 | |
under new business, then we will kind of talk about the subdivision regs conceptually and whether we want to adopt them as they | 00:04:24 | |
are but can but come back with some more edits perhaps the next month once Councilman Thomas had a chance to review. | 00:04:30 | |
I need, I think. I need. I think I need a motion. I make the motion to accept the agenda with those two additions. All right, we | 00:04:37 | |
have the motion. Do we have a second? We have a second. Any discussion hearing? None. All in favor, say aye. All right, The agenda | 00:04:42 | |
is approved. | 00:04:46 | |
All right. We will move on to administration. We have a brief overview of our public input process. | 00:04:51 | |
Earlier we've had two more people come in, but those two know the rules because they come to our meetings frequently. So welcome | 00:04:57 | |
Kathleen and Lawrence. Glad you guys are here tonight. So we will turn it over to City Manager Dickerson to walk us through our | 00:05:02 | |
financials, economic development reports and then we'll turn it over to the Chief for the eagerly awaited Police Department | 00:05:06 | |
report. So. | 00:05:11 | |
Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Everyone should have gotten the the profit loss for the revenues and expenses we are. | 00:05:17 | |
Trending fine. We're actually at the first of the year. A lot of things don't come in as a norm, you know come in after July. So | 00:05:26 | |
we they came in in July, we don't see them till August. So right now we're doing fine expenses wise and revenue wise. If there any | 00:05:32 | |
questions on that, I'm happy to take those, but we are doing fine on that. | 00:05:37 | |
On the splice, we've got three to look at SPLOST One, This is the remaining money. The remaining money here will be used for the | 00:05:44 | |
water and sewer project, Sewer line A that is going through the industrial park. | 00:05:50 | |
And it will be coupled with money that is in and and neither one of spots one or two are still receiving revenues. All these | 00:05:56 | |
revenues this, these have closed out as far as revenues go there remaining money in here for the most part is going towards sewer | 00:06:00 | |
line A as well. | 00:06:05 | |
Any questions on these? | 00:06:13 | |
All right on Spice 3. | 00:06:16 | |
Things to note, we have encumber. We've extended money on the jaws of life for the fire department, relocating the metal | 00:06:19 | |
playground and some. | 00:06:23 | |
Preliminary electric at Rocket Field resurfacing and fixing a storm pipe at Leo Lane and working on the branding and signage | 00:06:28 | |
effort. So and then we've encumbered some funds for some capital equipment you guys did in the fiscal year 22 budget. We are | 00:06:34 | |
trending about $8000 more a month right now we are expecting. | 00:06:41 | |
You know, to see more once Costco opens and stuff. We'll see more money come in with that. Any questions? | 00:06:49 | |
On that on two or three, just just for clarity for those who are watching online, we're trending 8000 more on the positive on the | 00:06:55 | |
revenue side not on the expense side. Yeah, we're collecting $8000 more and this this shows you the. | 00:07:01 | |
Sort of house it's. | 00:07:07 | |
So our bank balance is a little bit more than half a million. | 00:07:12 | |
For this right? | 00:07:15 | |
I know questions on that AARP. So the ARP, I think I reminded y'all last meeting that that that we were due the second transfer, | 00:07:18 | |
the second deposit from the US Treasury which flowed through the state to. | 00:07:25 | |
Another $548,000. | 00:07:32 | |
Roughly. | 00:07:36 | |
760 Sixty $1000 that you have not appropriate to a specific project. | 00:07:38 | |
This money is sorry, I did not mean to hit that. What happens when you're looking at it. So this money is now essentially general | 00:07:44 | |
fund money. It's the state offered, the federal government offered the opportunity for cities that we're getting less than $10 | 00:07:52 | |
million to use this money as a lot revenue replacement loss revenue option, a standard allowance. And so the city did take that | 00:07:59 | |
allowance. And so basically this is general fund money. I still have to report annually on this. | 00:08:06 | |
However, you don't have to use it in those categories that were required by the US Treasury before. Like you don't have to use it | 00:08:14 | |
for COVID measures or or public safety or or essential employees. You can use it for whatever you want, which is good because you | 00:08:19 | |
that gives you a lot of flexibility, however. | 00:08:24 | |
I think certainly. | 00:08:31 | |
The the guiding principle is that it be used for transformational purposes within your community. | 00:08:33 | |
With that said, you you still have some transformation to do decide how you're going to spend it. So any specific questions on | 00:08:38 | |
those? | 00:08:42 | |
We did. I do want to point out that during the fiscal year 22 and you'll learn about this in the in the audit. | 00:08:48 | |
You all approved, I think it was $132,000 for public safety personnel to to amend the budget to so we wouldn't have to go in the | 00:08:54 | |
general fund. We use some of this money. You may note up there we only used 87.5. | 00:09:01 | |
So that money rolled back into your non appropriated amount. | 00:09:08 | |
So that's good. And when we get the audit, when the audit auditors come back in November to do the report, you'll hear about that. | 00:09:13 | |
So did that reduce the impact on fund balance? I'm assuming is that accurate in terms of how that impacted the well, so this money | 00:09:18 | |
was being used instead of fund balance? | 00:09:23 | |
So fund balance wasn't affected because we use this instead, but because we didn't need all of it, it just went back into into | 00:09:29 | |
this. So OK, back but. | 00:09:34 | |
Actually, it never left, did it, chief. So right. | 00:09:41 | |
OK. | 00:09:46 | |
All right, Economic. | 00:09:47 | |
We don't have any, believe it or not, for business, alcohol or insurance this month. | 00:09:50 | |
Kind of unusual. We usually have a couple on the permanent side we have. | 00:09:56 | |
27 building permits for 14 projects, the majority of which are Trove single family residential homes that are going up. | 00:10:01 | |
And four of them are also related to the Wire Park development project. | 00:10:07 | |
Any questions about those? | 00:10:14 | |
Good evening, Mayor Council. | 00:10:24 | |
Good evening. It's always a pleasure to be in front of you again. | 00:10:25 | |
I have submitted a couple of reports, one rather lengthy report, and that's a comparison report that the mayor asked me for last | 00:10:29 | |
month. | 00:10:33 | |
And my monthly report that I produce for you on a monthly basis, Are there any questions over the monthly report? | 00:10:38 | |
No questions. OK, pretty clear cut, Straightforward. | 00:10:47 | |
All right. Well, let's move on to the comparison report. | 00:10:53 | |
So it was very interesting, Mayor asked me last month. | 00:10:57 | |
Look at some comparison. So I went back and looked at some historical data from the signs, the sign locations, and so it was | 00:11:02 | |
imperative that I found signs that were in the same locations for that duration of time from from 2020 to 2022. | 00:11:08 | |
Then if you remember way back in March of 2020, we had a thing called a pandemic where we locked everybody down and kept everybody | 00:11:16 | |
from going anywhere. | 00:11:20 | |
So I had to kind of evaluate what months I picked up, so I got as close to current. | 00:11:25 | |
2020. | 00:11:30 | |
Months wise, July and. | 00:11:32 | |
So June, we were starting to emerge. | 00:11:34 | |
June of 2020, we're starting to emerge from the COVID era and we're starting to see traffic gains and things like that, So it's a | 00:11:38 | |
pretty good comparison. | 00:11:41 | |
So what does it show? Shows a lot of stuff, actually. | 00:11:45 | |
There's a fluctuation in quantity of vehicles that naturally over the over the time frame each each roadway saw a fluctuation of | 00:11:49 | |
vehicles that was generally a very significant increase in vehicles. | 00:11:54 | |
The interesting part is, is that every roadway experienced a percentage of reduction from, you know, generally 4 to 7%. | 00:12:02 | |
The largest being Barnett Shoals at 52%, but that's largely in part due to the speed change reduction from 35 to 25. | 00:12:11 | |
So that that that's why that's such a significant number. | 00:12:18 | |
But the other element that was very intriguing to me. | 00:12:22 | |
Is the fact that I've highlighted in the summary report that the one that five mile an hour over is posted speed? | 00:12:26 | |
So if your speech is 25, it starts recording at 26. That's a violation. The sign sees as a violation, so one to five. | 00:12:34 | |
Saw a significant increase on all the roadways. The six to 10 saw a significant increase on the roadways. Well if you go back to | 00:12:43 | |
2020 and look at the 15 to 20. | 00:12:47 | |
Those were high. Those all decreased. So we're taking those violators that were violating. | 00:12:52 | |
The speeds that would have gotten them pulled over and wrote tickets. | 00:12:58 | |
And we've got them in a range that now is a much more manageable and appreciable speed. | 00:13:02 | |
So that, I think, is a win all the way around. | 00:13:07 | |
Anybody have any questions or any comments? | 00:13:12 | |
To clarify the. | 00:13:15 | |
The speeding 5 between 1:00 to 10:00 mph is actually higher than it used to be, but anything over 10 mph has gone down a lot. Yes, | 00:13:19 | |
yes, absolutely. So just as an example here, the 11 to 20 mile per hour violations reduced on Experiment Station by 4000 vehicles | 00:13:27 | |
from 2020 to 2022. The one to five increased by 11,000 vehicles. | 00:13:35 | |
And the six to 10 mile an hour violations increased by 11,600. And there, you know, here's a significant one signed up to Bridge. | 00:13:44 | |
1120 mile an hour violations were reduced by over 34,000 vehicles. | 00:13:53 | |
The one to five mile an hour violations increased by 29,500. | 00:13:58 | |
And then the six to 10 decreased by over 6200 vehicles but. | 00:14:04 | |
The. | 00:14:10 | |
And again, the interesting element to that is when you start looking at. | 00:14:11 | |
11 to 20 and higher, you see a decline in those numbers, significant decline which is which I think is a. | 00:14:16 | |
Very relevant to the fact that we're we both educated, we've got public that's driving through, that's aware and we're visibly | 00:14:24 | |
present and taking enforcement action. | 00:14:29 | |
Yeah. All right. | 00:14:36 | |
Other things we had going on, we had Taser certification class last Friday. | 00:14:40 | |
That was a lot of fun. It was a shocking experience for a few. | 00:14:44 | |
Was we actually ended up Tasing four of our own. Five of our own. Five of our own for getting them certified. | 00:14:49 | |
In. | 00:14:57 | |
And we had five deputies from the Sheriff's Office who were deploying the Taser 7. So they were in attendance and learning how to | 00:14:59 | |
deploy the new weapon that's that was a great thing. And then I'm very happy to announce that we are on the verge of being able to | 00:15:05 | |
release a motorcycle unit, a new tool in our arsenal. | 00:15:11 | |
For speed traffic enforcement, it'll be a. | 00:15:18 | |
Unexpected surprise for a few that would be out there, unsuspecting to see a motorcycle pull them over. | 00:15:22 | |
The interesting thing about this is Major Tedderton is owed a great deal of credit. He found these motorcycles on Gov deals. | 00:15:31 | |
Made a telephone call. Made a serious, serious personal connection with the person in Cary, NC. | 00:15:38 | |
They had them on the Gov Deals website to be sold at. | 00:15:44 | |
He told him we wanted to put him in, in in service to, you know. | 00:15:49 | |
Do traffic enforcement with them. They pulled them off the auction and went to council and gave both motorcycles. | 00:15:53 | |
To US for $1500. | 00:16:01 | |
These are, you know, BMW RT12 hundreds that you know, 10 to $15,000. | 00:16:05 | |
So it's a great asset and it's going to be a great tool to employ and. | 00:16:11 | |
Give a Give a new shot of the Walkersville Police Department. | 00:16:16 | |
Any questions over the most of? | 00:16:19 | |
We're excited to see them in service and and out there on the roadway and then doing it. I've got 2 motorcycle operators that are | 00:16:22 | |
itching to get on what we get behind the wheel. | 00:16:27 | |
All right. And last Friday evening, I was honored to be in attendance with a Academic Achieving Honor Graduate. | 00:16:33 | |
Of the Piedmont Technical College for the police Academy. | 00:16:44 | |
Rachel Stearns and if the mayor would do us the honor. | 00:16:47 | |
I would love for you to. | 00:16:51 | |
Swear this. | 00:16:53 | |
Rachel, turn and face me. | 00:17:12 | |
All right. All right. You're going to repeat. | 00:17:15 | |
Take one step closer. I think Sharon's trying to get you right for the camera. She's trying to get a picture. OK, all right, OK. | 00:17:20 | |
All right. | 00:17:26 | |
Raise your right hand and repeat after me, OK? I Rachel. Zoe Stearns. | 00:17:27 | |
Do hereby solemnly swear that. | 00:17:33 | |
Do hereby solemnly swear that I will support and defend. | 00:17:36 | |
The Constitution of the United States of America. | 00:17:40 | |
Of the United States of America, I will support and defend the Constitution. | 00:17:44 | |
All support independent hospitals of the State of Georgia. | 00:17:48 | |
I will support and defend. | 00:17:52 | |
The Charter and Ordinances of the City of Watkinsville. | 00:17:55 | |
I am not the holder. | 00:18:02 | |
Of any office of trust. | 00:18:04 | |
Under the government of the United States. | 00:18:07 | |
Under the government of the. | 00:18:09 | |
Any other state or any foreign state. | 00:18:11 | |
Any other state or any foreign. | 00:18:14 | |
Which I am by the laws of the. | 00:18:16 | |
Which I am by the laws of the state of Georgia prohibited from. | 00:18:19 | |
Of Georgia prohibited from. | 00:18:24 | |
I am otherwise qualified. | 00:18:26 | |
To hold the office of a peace officer. | 00:18:29 | |
According to the Constitution. | 00:18:34 | |
And laws of the State of Georgia. | 00:18:37 | |
I am not the holder. | 00:18:40 | |
Of any unaccountable public. | 00:18:42 | |
Of any unaccountable public money do. | 00:18:44 | |
Or any public political subdiv. | 00:18:48 | |
For any public political subdivision or authority thereof. | 00:18:51 | |
And I accept the law. | 00:18:56 | |
Code of Ethics of the International Association of Chiefs of Police. | 00:18:59 | |
The International Association of Chiefs of Police as my standard of conduct. | 00:19:04 | |
While on and off. | 00:19:10 | |
And swear to, faithfully abide by and defend the. | 00:19:13 | |
Those were faithfully abide by, and do the same, and. | 00:19:16 | |
I will faithfully follow the orders of the Chief of police. | 00:19:21 | |
Order. | 00:19:24 | |
Follow the orders that you and to the best of my ability. | 00:19:25 | |
Faithfully and justly perform. | 00:19:29 | |
That's all right. The duties and obligations. | 00:19:34 | |
Of a. | 00:19:39 | |
In. | 00:19:41 | |
Benevolent. | 00:19:42 | |
And Civil Man. | 00:19:45 | |
During my Commission. | 00:19:46 | |
During my Commission, so help me God. | 00:19:48 | |
Congratulations. | 00:19:51 | |
All right, You want to come up for a picture? Don't have your family up. We do the badge fitting. | 00:19:58 | |
All right, it hasn't. As a matter of honor and tradition, we like for the newly sworn officer to be pinned by one of their loved | 00:20:07 | |
ones. | 00:20:12 | |
If you would come forward. | 00:20:17 | |
Just like we practice. | 00:20:22 | |
All right, y'all, come on right up here. | 00:21:12 | |
Switch. | 00:21:25 | |
Right. | 00:21:28 | |
You. | 00:21:52 | |
That concludes our four other AM if there's any other questions. | 00:22:27 | |
Chief Where? So I think one of the things. | 00:22:33 | |
Is important and you know I want this to be in the record. | 00:22:37 | |
The improvement and the speeds around the city have been a goal for what? I mean three or four years, you know, through several | 00:22:40 | |
different administration, several different city councils, and I think you know. | 00:22:45 | |
Speed limit. Changing the speed limits is one thing, but you have in the resources you need to enforce. | 00:22:51 | |
And get that done for the citizens of Watkinsville. It's a real tribute to you guys in a tough hiring environment. You've rebuilt | 00:22:56 | |
the department as we've had a lot of transitions. So credit to you into the major and Y'all's leadership and it's always exciting. | 00:23:02 | |
Swearing new officers too, but I think it's important to connect the dots. This is the second month in a row that we've done this, | 00:23:09 | |
but even as all that transitions occurred to see the tremendous drop in speeds, which was a huge, huge. | 00:23:15 | |
I would say it's a complaint for many of our citizens who live on those quarters. So even though it's frustrated some people from | 00:23:22 | |
outside the city, I think that's a big win for our citizens. So thank you. Thank you. | 00:23:27 | |
I would love to see. I didn't. Maybe I missed it and all, but your report on the on the changes was it. I'm not the only one, | 00:23:37 | |
Chief. I did not see that in there either. I'm seeing this. | 00:23:42 | |
I didn't say I would love just a like get that because that's something that would be good to have on hand because, you know, | 00:23:50 | |
people still like it's good to be like no speeds have really decreased, I mean. | 00:23:57 | |
Let me do this for you. I'll give you my copy. | 00:24:05 | |
You. | 00:24:09 | |
Now I see them now they're definitely in there. Somehow I missed. | 00:24:11 | |
This page. | 00:24:15 | |
I understand, I understand. I print so many documents for the Council. I just planned everything. There's plenty of paper. All | 00:24:18 | |
right. Well, chief, thank you and thank you to your team. | 00:24:23 | |
I'm looking at the scrolling one that has it all. | 00:24:30 | |
The attorney I'll indicate when you step forward and the hearing is open, 4 minutes per person. We're not going to debate on that. | 00:25:06 | |
Address your comments to the council, but before we do the zoning map public hearing, we will turn it over to the manager for an | 00:25:11 | |
update on that. | 00:25:16 | |
So the real brief update on this is simply that since 2009, the Council has made decisions. | 00:25:22 | |
Most of them actually in the last three years about zoning matters that need to be reflected on the map and all we're simply doing | 00:25:29 | |
is making sure that the map is current with those changes. So good example would be Wire Park. You see off in the eastern part of | 00:25:35 | |
the of the map, you see that big orange with a couple yellow squares, that's Wire Park. That was a huge project that you guys | 00:25:41 | |
rezoned. So we're just simply trying to make sure the map reflects those decisions. | 00:25:48 | |
That's really all it is. | 00:25:55 | |
OK. | 00:25:58 | |
Well, I think we're going to do public hearing and then it'll come back to us under new business, correct? | 00:26:00 | |
So at this point, I do have a couple questions about that, but I think we'll follow the process so we have a public hearing. | 00:26:05 | |
Is there anyone who wants to make a comment a member of the public? The public hearing is now. | 00:26:11 | |
Any members of the audience wish to make a comment on the zoning map? | 00:26:16 | |
You'll have a chance. We are going to talk about Rocket Field, Kathleen. So you know, I mean, so you'll have your chance. You'll | 00:26:24 | |
have your chance. | 00:26:27 | |
You need to go. You have to go. Well, I can't see the matter. | 00:26:30 | |
Yeah. And I'll provide just. | 00:26:34 | |
Is there going to be another hearing office? | 00:26:37 | |
No. Think we'll adopt it tonight unless you bring up something. | 00:26:41 | |
This is what we already have, and we're just going to make sure. We just need to make sure the colors are right. | 00:26:44 | |
All right. OK. All right. We'll hold on to it because we'll come back to it if you have a comment and we can ask it. OK. Did we | 00:26:49 | |
receive anything online, Julie, on this one? OK. So no online comments, no comments from the public. With that we're going to | 00:26:55 | |
close the public hearing council this, we will come back and discuss this under new business. | 00:27:01 | |
And then also for public hearing we have. | 00:27:08 | |
The ordinance. The amendments to the subdivision ordinance. | 00:27:13 | |
This also comes back to us. Does this come back under new business or no, it does not. Or yes, it does. | 00:27:17 | |
So we're going to vote on that after the public hearing. | 00:27:24 | |
So at this point, this is a part we're going to open another public hearing, this time for amendments to our subdivision ordinance | 00:27:30 | |
Manager Dickerson, if you want to give a overview of that as necessary, and then we will proceed with the public hearing. | 00:27:36 | |
All right. Thank you. Thank you, manager. Mayor, sorry. | 00:27:43 | |
So the subdivision regulations are part are also part of our zoning code. So this is only the first phase. I've got to bring that | 00:27:48 | |
before you guys the zoning code and updated as well. But the main focus of this is simply procedural. We're trying to make sure | 00:27:54 | |
that you know prior to me coming on board and even prior. | 00:28:00 | |
Clarify to reflect the regulations, who's doing them. I tried not to get too particular with with. | 00:28:42 | |
Too many. There was a lot of places that are put manager or his or her designee to give some flexibility so that we don't have to | 00:28:49 | |
come back and do this again. For instance, there's a place in there we talked about. | 00:28:54 | |
With a building or the city contracts with a building inspections permits, company Bureau, Veritas and I didn't want to put them | 00:29:01 | |
in there because it may change. So it's Simply put in city manager or his or her designee. I did also make some reference of some | 00:29:07 | |
changes where it said mayor because now the city manager has those for those administrative functions. | 00:29:13 | |
There are places in there where we left County and Oconee County because they're relevant, but only in the case where they're | 00:29:20 | |
where they have departments like the fire department or their Public Utilities department or something like that. | 00:29:26 | |
So again, this the, the work that was done, and I started on this actually in October and got sidelined and got back into it after | 00:29:33 | |
the first of the year. Our city engineer, who's not here tonight, look through it. Toby Cartilage, our compliance officer and | 00:29:39 | |
public works supervisor, looked at it. The attorney looked at it and then we sent it out to y'all so that you could look at. I | 00:29:44 | |
tried today. I got up a clean copy. I'm sorry, I meant to get one up earlier because some people look at clean copies better than | 00:29:50 | |
looking at Redline. | 00:29:55 | |
It's just such a huge task. There was no way we would have had time to go through all of this at the same time. So what we did was | 00:30:38 | |
we adopted it as it was and knowing that we were going to have to go die back in and fix it. So we fixed, we're fixing this. | 00:30:45 | |
And you're going to see the zoning code come back at some point, maybe after the first year. We'll see. | 00:30:52 | |
That's what that is. | 00:30:57 | |
OK. So to remind council, we're going to a public hearing, we'll hear from the public, then we'll close the public hearing, then | 00:30:59 | |
we'll have discussion behind the rail. OK. So any comments from the public on the subdivision code changes? | 00:31:05 | |
Court client to be received any. | 00:31:12 | |
No Sir, OK. | 00:31:14 | |
Right. With that, I'm going to close the public hearing to bring it back behind and we'll go to item 6A, which is discussion. | 00:31:16 | |
And potentially. | 00:31:22 | |
There were several items when I was looking through it that I felt like needed to be updated. | 00:31:54 | |
Because a lot of times we reference to G dot specs which we have to remind ourselves G. | 00:31:59 | |
Does not build subdivisions. | 00:32:07 | |
So some of it's kind of beefed up, but one. | 00:32:09 | |
In particular was the curbing. | 00:32:12 | |
And the recycled asphalt and it's that language is still in here. | 00:32:15 | |
That, I feel like, needs to be. | 00:32:22 | |
Addressed and taken out because. | 00:32:24 | |
Ton of asphalt was put down. Today is recycle. | 00:32:28 | |
Oconee County put that in. | 00:32:32 | |
Back in the mid 80s, I mean 2008 somewhere around in that range. | 00:32:35 | |
In this anyway, so it's kind of contradicting itself when it's. | 00:32:42 | |
We refer back to G dot specs. | 00:32:46 | |
We cannot run recycle. | 00:32:51 | |
OK. All right. Every, every time that you see laid down today is that? | 00:32:54 | |
And the curb in. | 00:32:58 | |
In the cross section is showing the L back curb in every subdivision in Watkinsville has what we call the Hollywood Rollover | 00:33:02 | |
Curve. | 00:33:06 | |
So that's a more that's geared more towards subdivisions where the L back is good in the cul-de-sac. | 00:33:11 | |
For water drainage, you know, controlling the water right and on the roadways, but. | 00:33:19 | |
In the subdivision we should give the. | 00:33:25 | |
Developer the option. At least give the developer developer the. | 00:33:28 | |
As high as concrete is today. | 00:33:33 | |
If you put the hell back in there, every time there's a driveway, it's got to be cut. | 00:33:37 | |
New concrete's got to be cut taken. | 00:33:42 | |
Hauled off before you can put the driveway. | 00:33:45 | |
When you use the Hollywood it it you just tie right into it. | 00:33:48 | |
Yeah, so that was one of the ones I noticed as well. That's page, page 62, item B, Curb and Gutter. | 00:33:55 | |
Referencing specifically the six inch vertical. | 00:34:03 | |
6 inch vertical curving. Alright, so let me, let me, let me just let's have a philosophical discussion real quick. Let's hear from | 00:34:05 | |
the manager because. | 00:34:09 | |
And let me hear from Joe first. Actually, if we want to make some more changes to this, does it have an advertising requirement or | 00:34:14 | |
is it a one month turn like say that? | 00:34:19 | |
Adopt these tonight, but then Chuck and Brett get sharing their thoughts. | 00:34:24 | |
In the next week or two, can we then make, can we then have another public hearing and adopt additional changes, right, since we | 00:34:29 | |
had an advertised public hearing for what has been presented, what has been available online, I think that's the primary item for | 00:34:35 | |
consideration tonight. And then have a subsequent discussion on Hollywood versus L back 6 inch curbs etcetera, etcetera, the | 00:34:41 | |
technical side of things, recycled asphalt etcetera at next month's meeting. But my recommendation from a purely attorney legal | 00:34:47 | |
perspective is. | 00:34:53 | |
We need to handle as a matter of housekeeping and legalities and enforceability. Let's get this to modern standards, reflecting | 00:34:59 | |
our actual practices, and get that done now and then come back and make these changes next month. You know from a legal | 00:35:06 | |
perspective that that would have to be my advice. The only question I do we. I don't. | 00:35:12 | |
1st I believe we have any pending building that this. | 00:35:19 | |
Come under question in the next month. Correct me if I'm wrong. Well, you never know. But we may have. I mean, we do have. | 00:35:24 | |
Things happening in town. So there could be something that it would be nice. You know, another little thing I noticed in there is, | 00:35:31 | |
should our sidewalks be 6 feet wide instead of five feet wide, You know, things like that, you know that that I think is a would | 00:35:38 | |
be a healthy change to make, you know, so, but we didn't advertise that. So I'd be more comfortable if we move forward I think | 00:35:44 | |
adopting what was advertised, but we all get our feedback to Sharon or call Sharon or sit with Sharon. | 00:35:51 | |
In the next week. So we can do another round of this in the next month or two because Chuck, I think you raised some great points. | 00:35:58 | |
Brett, it sounds like you have other thoughts. So I've got several. | 00:36:03 | |
So what's? What's Maybe, if you are comfortable, what's Sharon's made a lot of sausage here. Let's go ahead and get that, get that | 00:36:09 | |
taken care of, and then let's. | 00:36:13 | |
Make some more in the next month and bring that back before us and we can do that. Is that agreeable to y'all? Because everybody's | 00:36:18 | |
making good points, but I'd rather. | 00:36:21 | |
Us get this cleaned up because the last thing we want to do is have some. | 00:36:25 | |
I mean, technically, you know, somebody might be able to hold our feet to the fire and say, well, your process is different than | 00:36:28 | |
what you outline and your subdivision, Oregon, you know, everybody's been willing to work with us. But it's a little bit awkward | 00:36:33 | |
to have to for Sharon or Toby to say ignore what you're reading on the website. That's not our process. Here's a piece of paper | 00:36:38 | |
that shows our actual process. So. | 00:36:42 | |
So if we can live with that, let's propose. | 00:36:48 | |
To adopt this. | 00:36:51 | |
And then let's get. | 00:36:52 | |
And if you need to sit down with Sharon, if that's easier than do that, well, let's get that information to her so we can then get | 00:36:54 | |
that process for the as soon as possible for the next month. | 00:36:57 | |
All right. OK. All right. So I'll entertain a motion to adopt. | 00:37:02 | |
Adopt updated the changes to the code for subdivision section. CI make a motion that we adopt the changes to the code Appendix C | 00:37:06 | |
subdivisions. All right, we have a motion. Do we have a second? | 00:37:12 | |
We have a motion. We have a second. Any further discussion? | 00:37:19 | |
All in favor, say aye, any. | 00:37:23 | |
All right, Motion carries 5 O. Think I heard everybody right. | 00:37:26 | |
All right. We have only one appearance tonight, and I think she's on the screen and that is. | 00:37:33 | |
Congratulations to our City Engineer Mark Campbell on the addition of the lovely Sydney Dorrett. Let's keep Mark and his. | 00:37:40 | |
In our prayers as they begin this new phase of life that's very exciting. So beautiful little girl. | 00:37:48 | |
So any other appearances manager? Dickerson? | 00:37:57 | |
So that's a good night, right? All right, Rocket Field. | 00:38:00 | |
We had two great public input meetings, Christine and Connie. I think we're able to. | 00:38:06 | |
Make make one of those each if I remember right. | 00:38:13 | |
And based on that input, I'm going to what do we have coming up per share? Is it a do we have the summary or just the renderings? | 00:38:17 | |
OK. The summary, the summary is in your packet, but I'm going at a high level, I'm going to recap what we heard. OK, this so the | 00:38:25 | |
things that there were people every you know people came in and they had like one one person might have wanted something, right. | 00:38:31 | |
But the things that were consistent themes that we heard in feedback around Rocket Field. | 00:38:37 | |
We had a group of folks who are interested in a tank. | 00:38:43 | |
OK. | 00:38:47 | |
We had requests for Play area and Play spaces. | 00:38:49 | |
We had a request for nobody liked the gazebo, but everybody liked the idea of a shady spot or a potential place. You know, if you | 00:38:53 | |
wanted to have a place for people to sit or even a small stage, like was it Mayor Dave's thing? You know, something like that, A | 00:38:58 | |
gathering point. | 00:39:02 | |
So we had a lot of support for. | 00:39:07 | |
The dog people were all thrilled that there's still space for the dogs. They did request if there's a possibility to have some | 00:39:09 | |
shade towards the middle of the field that they like to use that. | 00:39:14 | |
And so those were very little input on the actual ball field design. | 00:39:20 | |
And then there was some technical feedback around electric and stuff that we can work through. | 00:39:25 | |
But those were the four big areas. You know, what's a, what's a? Is there some sort of a play space? | 00:39:29 | |
Can there be not a gazebo, but something else that we might be able to gather? | 00:39:34 | |
From the dog owners, can we have more shade? | 00:39:40 | |
You know, make sure there's water or some shaded benches. And then we had a new Lawrence and Kathleen were passionate about it and | 00:39:44 | |
some other people. | 00:39:48 | |
Bat. | 00:39:54 | |
So I think we've got and what I want to do tonight is I want to walk through this. Certainly Kathleen and Lawrence if you want to | 00:39:55 | |
offer feedback on what you see please, you'll have the opportunity to do it after I walk through them. These renderings aren't | 00:40:00 | |
exactly perfect but we were kind of we had our last public input session last Tuesday night. | 00:40:06 | |
So they turned them around for us really quickly, which was nice. So, but just keep in mind that these aren't perfect. It's not | 00:40:12 | |
how. | 00:40:15 | |
You know, rendered, but it'll give you an idea of where we're going I think. So Sharon, let's kind of start working through and | 00:40:19 | |
I'll just work you through this is option. | 00:40:24 | |
Not the ideal view but I wanted to capture it so you guys could see it. So this. | 00:40:30 | |
Shows. | 00:40:35 | |
What's called a it's it's kind of a simple sort of architectural playscape. It's a climbing net sort of structure. | 00:40:37 | |
In that northwest corner that's closest to, that's at the intersection. You're looking here at the intersection of 2nd and School | 00:40:44 | |
St. | 00:40:47 | |
OK, so that's kind of a simple sort of play scape in that corner. | 00:40:52 | |
What you see on the other corner is a is it is kind of a stage or a covered pavilion. | 00:40:56 | |
A lot of people asked for something different than a gazebo, but I think you know, most people thought, hey we could use something | 00:41:03 | |
like that what we were able to do by moving it to the other corner share and you can probably Click to the next slide if I'm | 00:41:07 | |
remembering the order correct. | 00:41:11 | |
When I got up next is. | 00:41:16 | |
OK. All right. Well, we'll go to. We'll stay here for a second then. | 00:41:18 | |
The the idea being by putting it in the other corner, it kind of balances out the concession stand and the scores tent. It also if | 00:41:23 | |
you wanted to have a gathering, a small concert, the fall festival is a very logical place to kind of have. | 00:41:31 | |
A stage or gathering area where people can access the whole field. We still with this design it's not shown would anticipate that | 00:41:38 | |
fence through the middle that could be removed that would allow the dog park the same space that it had but by putting the shade | 00:41:44 | |
structure in the middle. | 00:41:49 | |
And the pavilion? It acknowledges one of the requests of the dog park folks, which is, hey, that's a really hot side of the field. | 00:41:55 | |
How about we How about we take advantage of? How about we take advantage of that? | 00:42:03 | |
So let's go ahead to the next one. | 00:42:08 | |
And one of the solutions that we like for Patak was easily forgotten about Rocket Field is there's this little island of space | 00:42:11 | |
right up by Okaf. And we thought that by capturing that space we could plant trees, have some picnic tables. | 00:42:18 | |
I don't antis he didn't render it without the play space. I don't anticipate keeping the playscape in that area, but the idea | 00:42:26 | |
being that would be an ideal space for the patent courts where they have their own space. | 00:42:31 | |
But also during the in Lawrence, ignore the wooden surround of the sand. I'm sure we do something different than that, but the | 00:42:37 | |
idea being we can capture this small space we need to remove some power poles. | 00:42:43 | |
And we'd have space to do 2 to three different patent courts there. Plant some trees, you have a nice shaded area. | 00:42:49 | |
And it could be used for that. And in the fall festival, we could still put picnic tables in that area. We could still utilize | 00:42:55 | |
that area around with the food trucks and things like that, but you'd have a dedicated area. | 00:43:00 | |
For the patent court. So that's one option. OK, yeah, go ahead. What is the talk? | 00:43:06 | |
Yep. | 00:43:12 | |
It's bocce. It's bocce ball. Next question on that now that I know it. | 00:43:14 | |
Where do we anticipate keeping these balls so they don't wander off? | 00:43:23 | |
Yeah. | 00:43:31 | |
I love watching ball. I just never heard of. | 00:43:34 | |
Court, if you will, the same size as the box football court. | 00:43:40 | |
So like a wire park, they have bocce ball that set up that water park. | 00:43:44 | |
We did these to Lawrence suspects, what you sent us. So we did everything we did. I think we used your measurements, although you | 00:43:50 | |